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Come on, he's not grabbed around the throat has he? Heaven knows there are enough crappy things to chastise the Tories for, getting wound up by things like this and what Francois said to the plonker in his EU flag suit yesterday just comes across as incredibly petty, especially when people start wanting to get the police involved for such trifles.
Doesn't bother me all that much. But a tory im a tux in a mansion aggressively dismissing climate change? Does feel a bit symbolic
 
Come on, he's not grabbed around the throat has he? Heaven knows there are enough crappy things to chastise the Tories for, getting wound up by things like this and what Francois said to the plonker in his EU flag suit yesterday just comes across as incredibly petty, especially when people start wanting to get the police involved for such trifles.

It's things like his that give the left a bad rep.
 
Come on, he's not grabbed around the throat has he? Heaven knows there are enough crappy things to chastise the Tories for, getting wound up by things like this and what Francois said to the plonker in his EU flag suit yesterday just comes across as incredibly petty, especially when people start wanting to get the police involved for such trifles.

Erm... it's assault. Astonished at your response to it here - that's physical assault.

Someone faced trial for milkshaking Farage - this is 10x worse.
 
Doesn't bother me all that much. But a tory im a tux in a mansion aggressively dismissing climate change? Does feel a bit symbolic

Mansion House is where the Loyd Mayor of London resides, and the City do various events and that there throughout the year, but yes, it is a shame that it's such an unedifying encounter. I've long opposed the antics of Greenpeace et al as they seem to rub up the majority of people who (rightly or wrongly) don't have the environment as their primary concern in life. They had gained access to the event without permission (you assume), so a part of me wonders if they weren't hoping to be rough housed a bit to get exactly this kind of publicity.

The thing is, can anyone say exactly what it was they were calling for? I haven't seen any mention of the cause at all, just that this bloke rough housed a Greenpeace activist, which may give publicity to Greenpeace, but they shouldn't be the star of this story should they?
 
Mansion House is where the Loyd Mayor of London resides, and the City do various events and that there throughout the year, but yes, it is a shame that it's such an unedifying encounter. I've long opposed the antics of Greenpeace et al as they seem to rub up the majority of people who (rightly or wrongly) don't have the environment as their primary concern in life. They had gained access to the event without permission (you assume), so a part of me wonders if they weren't hoping to be rough housed a bit to get exactly this kind of publicity.

The thing is, can anyone say exactly what it was they were calling for? I haven't seen any mention of the cause at all, just that this bloke rough housed a Greenpeace activist, which may give publicity to Greenpeace, but they shouldn't be the star of this story should they?
Sounds like someones fish course was delayed because of a climate change protest
 
And I don't think that was right. This is not physical assault in any shape or form. Heavens above.

Of course it is?

Take the politics out of it - yes, I can't stand Greenpeace either, or Farage - and both are obviously assault. It is unwanted physical contact with no just cause.
 
Come on, he's not grabbed around the throat has he? Heaven knows there are enough crappy things to chastise the Tories for, getting wound up by things like this and what Francois said to the plonker in his EU flag suit yesterday just comes across as incredibly petty, especially when people start wanting to get the police involved for such trifles.
Jesus Christ Bruce, the apologist right to it there. He’s already admitted he did.

There is nothing more Tory than a gammon faced Tory marching a activist out of a black tie dinner by her neck.
 
Have I woken up in a parallel universe? @Bruce Wayne with a NEA attitude towards the incident and @Tubey seemingly raging about it lol

In all seriousness though I personally don't see much of an issue here. You play silly games, you win silly prizes. I'm fairly sure that the media wouldn't be making half as much fuss about this if :

- the protester had been male
- the protester was removed in that fashion by actual "security"
- it had been a "right wing" protester at a left party event

I would be the last person to defend a tuxxed up Tory meff, and I'm totally for free-speech etc, but people really can't be expected to be "shocked" by what happened here, especially after some of the tragic events that have involved politicians in recent years. To me the fella acted on instinct and diffused a potentially dangerous situation.
 
Have I woken up in a parallel universe? @Bruce Wayne with a NEA attitude towards the incident and @Tubey seemingly raging about it lol

In all seriousness though I personally don't see much of an issue here. You play silly games, you win silly prizes. I'm fairly sure that the media wouldn't be making half as much fuss about this if :

- the protester had been male
- the protester was removed in that fashion by actual "security"
- if it had been a "right wing" protester at a left party event

I would be the last person to defend a tuxxed up Tory meff, and I'm totally for free-speech etc, but people really can't be expected to be "shocked" by what happened here, especially after some of the tragic events that have involved politicians in recent years. To me the fella acted on instinct and diffused the situation.

I'm not raging about it, I'm just calling it what it is - assault.

If Emily Thornberry had grabbed and shoved an aristocrat out of a "Screw Israel" student union picnic, I'd have the same view.

This isn't a political issue for me (although admittedly yes, there's an element of a privileged spoilt bully thinking he's above the law) - it's a case of not being allowed to manhandle someone like that.

Also, with the video, he doesn't act on instinct - he sees her coming, knows she is unarmed, is no clear threat. Indeed, that's why he does what he does - if she was a terrorist there's absolutely no chance he does what he does.
 
Of course it is?

Take the politics out of it - yes, I can't stand Greenpeace either, or Farage - and both are obviously assault. It is unwanted physical contact with no just cause.

The police have got far better things to do imo. Had Farage responded to his milkshaker ala John Prescott I wouldn't have regarded that as assault either. As @Lee Smith says, if you play silly buggers then you can expect a silly response. Sometimes adults can handle things among themselves without going crying to the police all the time.

Jesus Christ Bruce, the apologist right to it there. He’s already admitted he did.

There is nothing more Tory than a gammon faced Tory marching a activist out of a black tie dinner by her neck.

He can't really deny it can he? It's right there on screen. It just doesn't really bother me, and we have far more important things to worry about than a couple of grown adults playing silly sods. Should she be arrested for trespass or whatnot? No, not in my opinion. Move on and let the police deal with really important things.
 
Grabbing a woman by the neck “instinctively” isn’t a worry?

Okey dokey

Political bias does strange things to people.

It's quite simple really - take Greenpeace out of it, take the fact they're Tories out of it, and look at the situation as is.

A woman walks into a private party and past a table. A man physically attacks her and frogmarches her against her will in the opposite direction.

Any other walk of life, that's assault - I don't see why it being a protester at a Tory dinner makes it any different.
 
The police have got far better things to do imo. Had Farage responded to his milkshaker ala John Prescott I wouldn't have regarded that as assault either. As @Lee Smith says, if you play silly buggers then you can expect a silly response. Sometimes adults can handle things among themselves without going crying to the police all the time.



He can't really deny it can he? It's right there on screen. It just doesn't really bother me, and we have far more important things to worry about than a couple of grown adults playing silly sods. Should she be arrested for trespass or whatnot? No, not in my opinion. Move on and let the police deal with really important things.
Like milkshakes?
 
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