Senior Tory minister Conor Burns sacked after ‘serious misconduct’ claim
MP asked by Liz Truss to step down as trade minister and has party whip removed
Back once again with the ill behaviour....
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Back once again with the ill behaviour....
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
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That was under Boris, he always turned a blind eye, think this was what Dorries must have meant when she said Bojo was too loyal. lol
Convenient for Braverman, this coming out about Burns today, innit. I'm sure Truss only just found out.
Keeps yet more Home Office incompetence off the front page tomorrow.
Keeps yet more Home Office incompetence off the front page tomorrow.
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Feeling up a soldier at the Queen's funeral?Senior Tory minister Conor Burns sacked after ‘serious misconduct’ claim
MP asked by Liz Truss to step down as trade minister and has party whip removedwww.theguardian.com
Back once again with the ill behaviour....
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Picking the best people available for their 'growth' strategy.
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Croydon MP who's chief secretary to Treasury had at least 3 firms go bust
One company had losses of more than £2million and left the taxman on the hook
He's not.
But equally, he's not mentioning all the non-trade obligations that are packaged up with access to the EU's single market.
If it was just about trade then the overwhelming majority of the country would be pro-EU membership. But it isn't just about trade. The EU demands freedom of movement as part and parcel of single market trade. It's not a functional necessity, it's just an aspect of the price member states have to agree to in order to access the single market.
But you know that. As does Sadiq Kahn.
It's an enormous benefit, not a cost. Probably a bigger benefit than the single market.
EU not worth having without free movement: say 74% of Europeans in Oxford survey
Some three quarters of Europeans say the European Union would 'not be worth having' without freedom of movement, according to the latest highly-respected eupinions poll for the Oxford University Europe's Stories research project led by Professor Timothy Garton Ash. But the survey found strong...
I'm a Tory party member, as are dozens of my friends and family members. The chap in the video has just voiced my beliefs and values, and those of my friends / family. We're all appalled by Truss, and if you want to go diving through the vaults you'll find me being critical of Braverman back when Labour didn't even know who she was.
Genuinely find it sad that the strong left STILL just automatically label anyone centrist as a right wing zealot. It's so polarised, so black and white, so simplistic for the extreme left, because their entire identity is defined by hatred of anyone who dares think differently to them. Equally, extreme right-wingers are every bit as intolerant.
But there are dozens, if not hundreds, of sensible centrist MPs in both the Labour and Tory parties: I'd take a Labour government led by someone like Dan Jarvis tomorrow if the Burgons, Lammys, Rayners and Thornberrys were consigned to the backbenches where they belong. Equally a Tory party under Sunak or Badenoch is immediately more enlightened and centrist than Truss.
Cue all the jibes about "you can't be a centrist if you vote Tory".
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Conceptually, that's entirely possible. But in practical terms the voting population of the UK would overwhelmingly back a single market agreement based solely on trade, whereas there is far less support for a package deal where free trade is conditional on also accepting various other principles.
Understanding the above is not the same as agreeing that it's correct.
Badenoch lol.
Yep. I bet I could survey a few hundred thousand people who left former Warsaw pact countries to move to Germany, Sweden, Spain and France and I'd get that result too. I could also survey ten thousand residents in London and get universal support. But if I canvassed one hundred thousand people across Yorkshire (for instance) the result might well be differentEU not worth having without free movement: say 74% of Europeans in Oxford survey
Some three quarters of Europeans say the European Union would 'not be worth having' without freedom of movement, according to the latest highly-respected eupinions poll for the Oxford University Europe's Stories research project led by Professor Timothy Garton Ash. But the survey found strong...www.ox.ac.uk
The point is that member states join or don't join based on the feelings of their OWN electorate. Not on the reported beliefs of people all across the EU.
I imagine it would also aid growth
Indeed it might. It's fairly obvious to see how.
But the public don't want it. And the short-termism of our political system, combined with our abysmal, sensationalism-obsessed media, means that no government will risk such an unpopular move.
Truss did something horrendously unpopular last week (by way of comparison); when she saw the massive negative reaction she changed course, and the media promptly attacked her for making a "U-turn".
If you want politicians to be open about the idea of changing unpopular policies, what is the point in attacking them for changing unpopular policies? All that happens is that they become afraid of changing course.
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