Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

[Tin-Tin]

Urgh

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[PhilM]

Oh I am firmly in your camp re control. To me, as a Brit, its bonkers. Its just that I have used a shotgun a fair few times, (clay pigeon shooting with a pal), and as a fit adult, the recoil takes some getting used to. Heaven only knows what happens using the kit he did. Hence, I assume it was not his first use of such a weapon.

The weapon steams from the AR-15 design, which many Brits may know as the Armalite. Yup, the infamous weapon that was successfully utilised by the PIRA.

Why the fluffin' hell does any civvy need a long-barrelled semi-automatic? Bonkers.

 

[BlueTX]

The social media response of local Jeebus conservatives is... it's the media's fault we are getting changing reports.

Point out the changing stories given to reporters by the DPS that were accurately reported as the stories are given and, well, that's just covering for the liberal media who are going to tell the story they want, when they want to make Jeebus conservatives (gun owners) look bad.

 

[Huyton Layne]

Driving home from school today and my kid(8 y/o) said the church next to his school and the physical rehab place we pass on the way home both had flags at half mast so something must have happened.
Just told him and his brother someone famous must have died and changed the subject.
Like frig am I telling them a bunch of kids their age got massacred in school.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

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[emir]

Thats a grey area. Personally, I see the second amendment as the right of the people to arm in order to form a militia in order to overthrow a tyrannical government. It's historical precedent (maybe the wrong word) that's completely outdated and was likely included in the bill of rights in order to maintain the support of the southern colonies/states in the fledgling years of the republic. The northern states needed this guarantee to quickly organize a response to any British reprisals, the southern states needed it to quell slave rebellions. The different needs for 2A go to the fundamental heart of the divide in the Country that led to civil war and still persist today.
I think it should be amended to clear up the ambiguity that plagues the issue. I, personally, don't see the need for any guns in private ownership but I get that that's unrealistic. So perhaps, amend the constitution so that the 2A is clearer, safer, and easier to legislate for and implement.

Good point.

You can't just repeal the 2nd amendment anymore anyways. There are too many guns everywhere and taking away guns is just punishing the law abiding citizens and leaving them vulnerable to criminals.

 

[LinekersLegs]

RIP

 

[emir]

The values of compulsory service in order to keep firearms (i.e. serve in a militia) is how this country was formed and is the basis of its identity? May I ask where you studied American history/civics/political science?

The modern interpretation is antithetical to the concepts of the Framers so cannot be "how America was formed" nor the basis of its "identity".

The Second Amendment says nothing about background checks or mental health screening. Right now I could walk across the street and sell my neighbor one of my shotguns and there's absolutely nothing preventing me from doing so. No background check or mental health screening is required.

For me, second amendment stands for everything that America is supposed to represent. For me, it's all about freedom. The 2nd amendment is supposed to empower the citizens and give the citizens the freedom. America was formed based on an uprising against a tyrannical regime and the ideas of 2nd amendment was fermented from this.

The 2nd amendment does not say anything about background checks or mental health screening but that's definitely something I would consider as somebody who takes the 2nd amendment incredibly seriously. Beto O'Rouke is a clown btw.

Where I studied American history? My uncle was a PA for Ross Perot in his college days.

 

[LostLegend]

Beto O'Rouke is a clown btw.

Speaking of clowns, you are easily the biggest on this forum. Absolute WUM.

 

[LostLegend]

Just shows even trained cops have to wait for the units specially trained in CQC (SWAT etc.) before they'll engage.
Goes to confirm what I said earlier about the madness of suggesting teachers should be armed.

 

[LostLegend]

One of the most spineless men in world politics this fella.