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The misinformation campaign has already began. Fox news and the far right media are going to try to portray Ossoff as a supporter of Al Jazeera because this label would resonate with Republican voters who are not willing to comprehend that there is a difference between the Al Jazeera media company and the terrorist group.
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Al Jazeera paid thousands to Georgia Senate candidate Jon Ossoff's company, records show
Democratic Georgia Senate candidate John Ossoff's company was paid thousands of dollars for documentaries that it licensed to Al Jazeera, the controversial media company owned by Qatar, according to his financial disclosure forms.
Sassy Colombian
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Nothing has been more bothersome than seeing the lack of the bravery shown by those serving under his command. They are afraid to stand up to him but as soon as they quit, or get fired, then they are not longer afraid of speaking out. Still baffles me how anyone agrees to work for this President. Their reputation is forever tainted.
Trump's legal adviser Jenna Ellis in 2016 called him an 'idiot' and said his supporters didn't care about 'facts or logic'
Jenna Ellis has been one of President Donald Trump's most ardent defenders since joining his campaign as a legal adviser and surrogate a year ago, but in early 2016 she was one of his toughest critics and deeply opposed his candidacy, according to a CNN KFile review of statements she made on her...
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abelard
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lol You boys choose the strangest pretexts to get upset about. Ok vereauxi, no more scary book lurnin' or historical parables about whether people better remember Marie Antoinette's charity work or being told to eat cake then, if it makes you feel more secure.
As you well know, this is a one-sided, tendentious filtering of what happened in West Virginia. Biden outperformed Clinton slightly - but this is like saying that rain is wet and falls from the sky because Clinton won the lowest number of total votes by a Democrat in West Virginia since the backlash against the First World War. So yes, Biden improved on 2016 (albeit almost imperceptibly on the NYT swing map), but Osama Bin Laden, the Ayatollah Khomeini and an inanimate carbon rod would have, too. Biden's performance was still worse than Obama in 2012 and especially 2008, when he took 7 counties. It was, in fact, the second lowest vote share for Democrat in the history of the state of West Virginia. And you are also ignoring that Trump increased both his share of the vote and his total votes by far, far more than Biden did. If you consider it progress when your opponent defeats you by an even greater margin than he did last time, knock yourself out. "Phenomenal", to borrow a phrase. And, far more relevant than West Virginia, you are also overlooking the further and likely permanent swings toward the Republicans in Iowa or Ohio - states that the Democrats once won routinely even as late as Obama.
Regarding Democrat support among African Americans, you are also ignoring both historical trends, momentum and overall turnout, all of which matter far more than vote share. Yes, the overall percentage is high, but when it swings even by a few points to Republicans the consequences are existential for the Democrats given the precarity of their coalition. This, as I'm sure you know, is exactly what happened in 2016, when Trump won the same share of the white vote as Romney but defeated Clinton through modest gains among African American and Latino voters. In 2020, it is looking like African-American voters again swung for Trump by about 3-5% (which is essentially two votes for Republicans - add one for them and subtract one for you). Absent an unprecedented surge against a historically unpopular opponent in the suburbs (by people who still voted Republican down ballot) and by young people (which the Party apparently has no interest in sustaining if the appointment of fossil fuel crony Cedric Richmond as environmental liaison is anything to go by), this shift alone would be enough to cost them an election. It did in 2016.
When we consider African American voter turnout, the picture is even more bleak. Take a look at what has happened in Cleveland, for example:
This is what the obliteration of the Democratic Party looks like.
Among Latino voters (who do not actually exist as a coherent voting bloc), it is even more stark. Tejanos swung to Trump by huge margins - 30 point swings in many counties. That's the headline but elsewhere the Democrats also lost ground badly. In Nevada for instance it is looking from the exit polls like Biden shed 10% among Hispanic voters. This is terrifying to anyone who actually understands how Democrats win elections, but not unexpected; after all, the Party took great pains to repudiate the only candidate who understands how to mobilise Latino voters, turned up their noses at his formidable grassroots organisation, spent the whole summer ignoring increasingly frantic warnings and pleas about Latino outreach, and then, when it was far too late, assumed that classic specimens like this could win them back:
Imagine just how contemptuous or indifferent to your party voters have to be to swing toward Donald Trump, a man who spent four years demonising immigrants from South of the border, calling them rapists, accusing them of being unable to judge impartially... And then the Democrats lost significant ground to him. Has it occurred to you yet to genuinely attempt to understand why that is? If you honestly think people don't understand the insinuation when the most salient question as they're queued up for food handouts is who they voted for - or, that implications of the elites' collective guilt-induced hysteria and competitive rites of wokeness don't nonetheless filter through to people who don't know who Kendi or Robin di Angelo are - or, how people who've just lost their small businesses or their homes or their ability to feed their children can be expected respond to being told that the most urgent problem in America is their lack of contrition for oppressing Barack Obama and Kamala Harris's children... well, lets just say, liberals' extraordinary talent at keeping their heads beneath the sand is yet another reason why we can state with such certainty that the future is so bleak for the Democrats. In ceremonies of the horseman, even the pawn must hold a grudge.
None of this has not gone unnoticed among conservatives (who virtually nobody here reads or understands). They have started to realise, far, far sooner than the Democrats, that a decisive bloc of Latino and African-American voters will vote along class lines when given the option, giving them to keys to govern virtually unopposed. Democrats think they've won some epic victory against the final video game boss, but the truth is, against Trump they were playing on easy mode. The Republicans have far more room to grow than the Democrats, who maxxed out their turnout and still lost down-ballot while barely defeating an impossibly weak opponent. They will never again get to campaign against a pandemic, a depression and a historically unpopular President who spend his airtime blubbering that Grayson Carter was very unfair to him when he wasn't insulting the very voters who nonetheless swung for him. The Republicans know this, and will run a ruthless, disciplined, largely colourblind campaign for nationalism, patriotism, pride and solidarity, and against clueless, condescending, prosperous liberal know-it-alls. The script is familiar, and they've recited it with great effect since Nixon. They will call themselves the Party of the Working Class, which is grotesque but against the post-Obama Democrats, still the more plausible claim to the mantle. And they can cite the very tangible material gains accrued to the lowest income bracket under Trump (and if you're bursting at the seams to tell me that Trump wasn't personally responsible, you're correct and it doesn't matter). In 2022 + 2024, the Republicans will restore their standing among rich white suburbanites (whose 2020 aberration the post-Obama sold out every other element of their coalition for) and continue expanding their gains with non-college educated whites, African Americans and Latinos (many of whom will also once again cease to vote). The appearance of authenticity is the most important currency there is in American politics, and against this, once Biden and Sanders are out to pasture, the only Democrats with any national profile act like they're auditioning to play the villains in Office Space. If you let the RNC choose their own opponent, Harris, Buttigieg and Warren would top every single list.
Stamp your feet, gnash and wail, filter the polls and keep calling me playground names or insulting my 'intellectual complexity' (PS Lol!) to collect your Pavlovian dopamine rewards from the SteveBots, if it soothes you. It doesn't matter. It changes nothing. It is a certainty that the Democrats will lose the House in 2022, and two years later when West Virginia, Montana and Ohio go red, they'll have lost the Senate for a generation, if not permanently. And most likely the Presidency too, without Trump to drive turnout and after Biden does nothing (or, better yet, does nothing save for waiving college debt by fiat) and the Party's clueless functionaries, grifters and obedient base toss up some hilariously tone-deaf West Wing kayfabe tag team like Harris and Buttigieg to test once again how 'vote for me or you're racist' fares with a country that feels sneered at, humiliated, impoverished, angry and ignored.
lol You boys choose the strangest pretexts to get upset about. Ok vereauxi, no more scary book lurnin' or historical parables about whether people better remember Marie Antoinette's charity work or being told to eat cake then, if it makes you feel more secure.
As you well know, this is a one-sided, tendentious filtering of what happened in West Virginia. Biden outperformed Clinton slightly - but this is like saying that rain is wet and falls from the sky because Clinton won the lowest number of total votes by a Democrat in West Virginia since the backlash against the First World War. So yes, Biden improved on 2016 (albeit almost imperceptibly on the NYT swing map), but Osama Bin Laden, the Ayatollah Khomeini and an inanimate carbon rod would have, too. Biden's performance was still worse than Obama in 2012 and especially 2008, when he took 7 counties. It was, in fact, the second lowest vote share for Democrat in the history of the state of West Virginia. And you are also ignoring that Trump increased both his share of the vote and his total votes by far, far more than Biden did. If you consider it progress when your opponent defeats you by an even greater margin than he did last time, knock yourself out. "Phenomenal", to borrow a phrase. And, far more relevant than West Virginia, you are also overlooking the further and likely permanent swings toward the Republicans in Iowa or Ohio - states that the Democrats once won routinely even as late as Obama.
Regarding Democrat support among African Americans, you are also ignoring both historical trends, momentum and overall turnout, all of which matter far more than vote share. Yes, the overall percentage is high, but when it swings even by a few points to Republicans the consequences are existential for the Democrats given the precarity of their coalition. This, as I'm sure you know, is exactly what happened in 2016, when Trump won the same share of the white vote as Romney but defeated Clinton through modest gains among African American and Latino voters. In 2020, it is looking like African-American voters again swung for Trump by about 3-5% (which is essentially two votes for Republicans - add one for them and subtract one for you). Absent an unprecedented surge against a historically unpopular opponent in the suburbs (by people who still voted Republican down ballot) and by young people (which the Party apparently has no interest in sustaining if the appointment of fossil fuel crony Cedric Richmond as environmental liaison is anything to go by), this shift alone would be enough to cost them an election. It did in 2016.
When we consider African American voter turnout, the picture is even more bleak. Take a look at what has happened in Cleveland, for example:
This is what the obliteration of the Democratic Party looks like.
Among Latino voters (who do not actually exist as a coherent voting bloc), it is even more stark. Tejanos swung to Trump by huge margins - 30 point swings in many counties. That's the headline but elsewhere the Democrats also lost ground badly. In Nevada for instance it is looking from the exit polls like Biden shed 10% among Hispanic voters. This is terrifying to anyone who actually understands how Democrats win elections, but not unexpected; after all, the Party took great pains to repudiate the only candidate who understands how to mobilise Latino voters, turned up their noses at his formidable grassroots organisation, spent the whole summer ignoring increasingly frantic warnings and pleas about Latino outreach, and then, when it was far too late, assumed that classic specimens like this could win them back:
Imagine just how contemptuous or indifferent to your party voters have to be to swing toward Donald Trump, a man who spent four years demonising immigrants from South of the border, calling them rapists, accusing them of being unable to judge impartially... And then the Democrats lost significant ground to him. Has it occurred to you yet to genuinely attempt to understand why that is? If you honestly think people don't understand the insinuation when the most salient question as they're queued up for food handouts is who they voted for - or, that implications of the elites' collective guilt-induced hysteria and competitive rites of wokeness don't nonetheless filter through to people who don't know who Kendi or Robin di Angelo are - or, how people who've just lost their small businesses or their homes or their ability to feed their children can be expected respond to being told that the most urgent problem in America is their lack of contrition for oppressing Barack Obama and Kamala Harris's children... well, lets just say, liberals' extraordinary talent at keeping their heads beneath the sand is yet another reason why we can state with such certainty that the future is so bleak for the Democrats. In ceremonies of the horseman, even the pawn must hold a grudge.
None of this has not gone unnoticed among conservatives (who virtually nobody here reads or understands). They have started to realise, far, far sooner than the Democrats, that a decisive bloc of Latino and African-American voters will vote along class lines when given the option, giving them to keys to govern virtually unopposed. Democrats think they've won some epic victory against the final video game boss, but the truth is, against Trump they were playing on easy mode. The Republicans have far more room to grow than the Democrats, who maxxed out their turnout and still lost down-ballot while barely defeating an impossibly weak opponent. They will never again get to campaign against a pandemic, a depression and a historically unpopular President who spend his airtime blubbering that Grayson Carter was very unfair to him when he wasn't insulting the very voters who nonetheless swung for him. The Republicans know this, and will run a ruthless, disciplined, largely colourblind campaign for nationalism, patriotism, pride and solidarity, and against clueless, condescending, prosperous liberal know-it-alls. The script is familiar, and they've recited it with great effect since Nixon. They will call themselves the Party of the Working Class, which is grotesque but against the post-Obama Democrats, still the more plausible claim to the mantle. And they can cite the very tangible material gains accrued to the lowest income bracket under Trump (and if you're bursting at the seams to tell me that Trump wasn't personally responsible, you're correct and it doesn't matter). In 2022 + 2024, the Republicans will restore their standing among rich white suburbanites (whose 2020 aberration the post-Obama sold out every other element of their coalition for) and continue expanding their gains with non-college educated whites, African Americans and Latinos (many of whom will also once again cease to vote). The appearance of authenticity is the most important currency there is in American politics, and against this, once Biden and Sanders are out to pasture, the only Democrats with any national profile act like they're auditioning to play the villains in Office Space. If you let the RNC choose their own opponent, Harris, Buttigieg and Warren would top every single list.
Stamp your feet, gnash and wail, filter the polls and keep calling me playground names or insulting my 'intellectual complexity' (PS Lol!) to collect your Pavlovian dopamine rewards from the SteveBots, if it soothes you. It doesn't matter. It changes nothing. It is a certainty that the Democrats will lose the House in 2022, and two years later when West Virginia, Montana and Ohio go red, they'll have lost the Senate for a generation, if not permanently. And most likely the Presidency too, without Trump to drive turnout and after Biden does nothing (or, better yet, does nothing save for waiving college debt by fiat) and the Party's clueless functionaries, grifters and obedient base toss up some hilariously tone-deaf West Wing kayfabe tag team like Harris and Buttigieg to test once again how 'vote for me or you're racist' fares with a country that feels sneered at, humiliated, impoverished, angry and ignored.
You continue to post the exact same sh** expecting different responses. How fecking sad is that? Maybe except people don't see it your way and move on.
You bleat on about how many of us are obsessed with Trump yet you have found 50 different ways to make the exact same pont about the democrats. We get it you don't like them.
Pointless long drivel just to say the Democrats are bad.
You are a condescending pri**. Who hasn't changed the record since Bernie lost.
The part you seem to miss is the American electorate didn't make this about Democrats or Republicans. They made it about getting rid of Trump. Seemingly people were tired of his sh** and voted the only other realistic option.
Yet here you are for the umpteenth time banging on about the party.
Mad thing is we all get it. They have flaws and need change but this was not the election for that.
So go ahead be condescending to those who this actually matters. Call us names and repeat yourself over and over and over again but it won't change the fact you are missing the point.
I'm convinced that, if anyone was bothered to read them, Abelard is just making the exact same post except with more sneers added on to the start and end each time. It's like the Akira of tedious pontification, raging through downtown Neo-GOT.
lol You boys choose the strangest pretexts to get upset about. Ok vereauxi, no more scary book lurnin' or historical parables about whether people better remember Marie Antoinette's charity work or being told to eat cake then, if it makes you feel more secure.
As you well know, this is a one-sided, tendentious filtering of what happened in West Virginia. Biden outperformed Clinton slightly - but this is like saying that rain is wet and falls from the sky because Clinton won the lowest number of total votes by a Democrat in West Virginia since the backlash against the First World War. So yes, Biden improved on 2016 (albeit almost imperceptibly on the NYT swing map), but Osama Bin Laden, the Ayatollah Khomeini and an inanimate carbon rod would have, too. Biden's performance was still worse than Obama in 2012 and especially 2008, when he took 7 counties. It was, in fact, the second lowest vote share for Democrat in the history of the state of West Virginia. And you are also ignoring that Trump increased both his share of the vote and his total votes by far, far more than Biden did. If you consider it progress when your opponent defeats you by an even greater margin than he did last time, knock yourself out. "Phenomenal", to borrow a phrase. And, far more relevant than West Virginia, you are also overlooking the further and likely permanent swings toward the Republicans in Iowa or Ohio - states that the Democrats once won routinely even as late as Obama.
Regarding Democrat support among African Americans, you are also ignoring both historical trends, momentum and overall turnout, all of which matter far more than vote share. Yes, the overall percentage is high, but when it swings even by a few points to Republicans the consequences are existential for the Democrats given the precarity of their coalition. This, as I'm sure you know, is exactly what happened in 2016, when Trump won the same share of the white vote as Romney but defeated Clinton through modest gains among African American and Latino voters. In 2020, it is looking like African-American voters again swung for Trump by about 3-5% (which is essentially two votes for Republicans - add one for them and subtract one for you). Absent an unprecedented surge against a historically unpopular opponent in the suburbs (by people who still voted Republican down ballot) and by young people (which the Party apparently has no interest in sustaining if the appointment of fossil fuel crony Cedric Richmond as environmental liaison is anything to go by), this shift alone would be enough to cost them an election. It did in 2016.
When we consider African American voter turnout, the picture is even more bleak. Take a look at what has happened in Cleveland, for example:
This is what the obliteration of the Democratic Party looks like.
Among Latino voters (who do not actually exist as a coherent voting bloc), it is even more stark. Tejanos swung to Trump by huge margins - 30 point swings in many counties. That's the headline but elsewhere the Democrats also lost ground badly. In Nevada for instance it is looking from the exit polls like Biden shed 10% among Hispanic voters. This is terrifying to anyone who actually understands how Democrats win elections, but not unexpected; after all, the Party took great pains to repudiate the only candidate who understands how to mobilise Latino voters, turned up their noses at his formidable grassroots organisation, spent the whole summer ignoring increasingly frantic warnings and pleas about Latino outreach, and then, when it was far too late, assumed that classic specimens like this could win them back:
Imagine just how contemptuous or indifferent to your party voters have to be to swing toward Donald Trump, a man who spent four years demonising immigrants from South of the border, calling them rapists, accusing them of being unable to judge impartially... And then the Democrats lost significant ground to him. Has it occurred to you yet to genuinely attempt to understand why that is? If you honestly think people don't understand the insinuation when the most salient question as they're queued up for food handouts is who they voted for - or, that implications of the elites' collective guilt-induced hysteria and competitive rites of wokeness don't nonetheless filter through to people who don't know who Kendi or Robin di Angelo are - or, how people who've just lost their small businesses or their homes or their ability to feed their children can be expected respond to being told that the most urgent problem in America is their lack of contrition for oppressing Barack Obama and Kamala Harris's children... well, lets just say, liberals' extraordinary talent at keeping their heads beneath the sand is yet another reason why we can state with such certainty that the future is so bleak for the Democrats. In ceremonies of the horseman, even the pawn must hold a grudge.
None of this has not gone unnoticed among conservatives (who virtually nobody here reads or understands). They have started to realise, far, far sooner than the Democrats, that a decisive bloc of Latino and African-American voters will vote along class lines when given the option, giving them to keys to govern virtually unopposed. Democrats think they've won some epic victory against the final video game boss, but the truth is, against Trump they were playing on easy mode. The Republicans have far more room to grow than the Democrats, who maxxed out their turnout and still lost down-ballot while barely defeating an impossibly weak opponent. They will never again get to campaign against a pandemic, a depression and a historically unpopular President who spend his airtime blubbering that Grayson Carter was very unfair to him when he wasn't insulting the very voters who nonetheless swung for him. The Republicans know this, and will run a ruthless, disciplined, largely colourblind campaign for nationalism, patriotism, pride and solidarity, and against clueless, condescending, prosperous liberal know-it-alls. The script is familiar, and they've recited it with great effect since Nixon. They will call themselves the Party of the Working Class, which is grotesque but against the post-Obama Democrats, still the more plausible claim to the mantle. And they can cite the very tangible material gains accrued to the lowest income bracket under Trump (and if you're bursting at the seams to tell me that Trump wasn't personally responsible, you're correct and it doesn't matter). In 2022 + 2024, the Republicans will restore their standing among rich white suburbanites (whose 2020 aberration the post-Obama sold out every other element of their coalition for) and continue expanding their gains with non-college educated whites, African Americans and Latinos (many of whom will also once again cease to vote). The appearance of authenticity is the most important currency there is in American politics, and against this, once Biden and Sanders are out to pasture, the only Democrats with any national profile act like they're auditioning to play the villains in Office Space. If you let the RNC choose their own opponent, Harris, Buttigieg and Warren would top every single list.
Stamp your feet, gnash and wail, filter the polls and keep calling me playground names or insulting my 'intellectual complexity' (PS Lol!) to collect your Pavlovian dopamine rewards from the SteveBots, if it soothes you. It doesn't matter. It changes nothing. It is a certainty that the Democrats will lose the House in 2022, and two years later when West Virginia, Montana and Ohio go red, they'll have lost the Senate for a generation, if not permanently. And most likely the Presidency too, without Trump to drive turnout and after Biden does nothing (or, better yet, does nothing save for waiving college debt by fiat) and the Party's clueless functionaries, grifters and obedient base toss up some hilariously tone-deaf West Wing kayfabe tag team like Harris and Buttigieg to test once again how 'vote for me or you're racist' fares with a country that feels sneered at, humiliated, impoverished, angry and ignored.
Sooooo, you're describing how democracy works?
I can't work out whether you're an angry democrat; annoyed that your party isn't seizing this opportunity to kill of the crusty, old, fascist republican party.
Or
an angry republican (is there any other kind?); Refusing to accept defeat and the realisation that as America's population gets increasingly younger and more diverse, the crusty, old, fascist republican party will struggle to remain relevant.
abelard
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Good one. Between SteveBot and this you comedy is right up there with the best.
Tell us again how the Democrats are bad. Not sure we have heard it enough.
You call people stupid in a subtly snide way every time you post and expect people to take you seriously. Try talking to and not down to people. You literally dismiss anyone's opinions which doesn't line up with yours.
Truth is you are still sore Bernie was rejected by the left and the people. You have gone out of your way to prove that they were wrong too and will suffer as a result.
Tbf, he may well end up being right. It's just the condescension, cast iron certainty of future events and long identical screeds that make the Abelard smh cocktail such a potent thing imo
abelard
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It's funny because I actually almost never make personal attacks or phrase things in personal terms, unless someone is really behaving like an asshole.
I generally respond to people with the same tone they use in addressing me. For example: you, young Steve, are welcome to call me a prick, and I will reply by noting that comparing you to a bot is actually very unfair to bots because they've been able to generate far higher quality syntax than you do, for decades now.
On the other hand there are many posters here who disagree with me on many things, but who know how to do so like an adult - and I have always been cordial and respectful to them.
I am critical of Democrats and liberals, just as I always have been toward Republicans and conservatives (just ask @mezzrow ) - and I understand that many of you identify profoundly with the former, to the extant that even abstract non-personal criticism feels like a grievous assault on your ego and honour.
But that is a problem for you to work out, not me.
Him deciding every voter who went with Warren and Biden or anyone else for that matter is ignorant or wrong and somehow the Democratic parties is responsible for that. Then citing conservative opinions is way off the mark.
Americans clearly wanted someone who they knew and who wasn't Trump. Sanders is a scary thought for many Americans. Especially in states that are up for grabs. He may not have done enough to grab in those from other more red states.
I voted Sanders in the primary. I see his appeal and hoped he would make it. But realistically I knew deep down America are not ready for someone with his views.
Just look at one of the things Abe citied. The latins. Scaring them with socialism.
The socialism thing worked here for the reds. They managed to convince voters that the local Democrat was a socialist and so their guy one.
When Sanders was harping on destroying and closing insurance companies down and dismantling drug companies. He effectively told 10m they may be out of work.
To do that in four years also is a big ask.
The Democratic party are far from perfect. I worked on a campaign this time around for that local guy. Some friends of mine in other areas.
The candidates although mentioning social programs would not fully commit to the social progressive program because it does lose votes.
I don't disagree with the idea that the party needs an overhaul. But do I think they are in dire straits as he makes out. No they are not.
This is the wrong election for figures. Clearly it was about ousting Trump for most who voted against him. Now Biden is in they will.have to press restart and try come up with ways of fixing it.
Death
I'll take down dat coal powered MG, I tel u Hwat
It takes some doing being more right wing than Trump but the democrats have no qualms about coming at Trump from the right. If it means killing Americans and civilians. Atrocious reactions by the right wing Democrats.
If he abolished privatising of health and schools the the democrats would be attacking him. The disgusting fake left pro illegal war party make me laugh. And then you have the echo chamber of fart smellers in here thinking they are more progressive than Trump.
The fact Biden won’t investigate Trump will hurt you guys more than if Biden doesn’t end up raising the the minimum wage to 15. To rationalise why America need to maintain invading other countries and killing civilians and being more outraged that Biden won’t investigate one single Orange faced persons corruption is an exposure of the mind set.
How is it so that the corporate Democratic Party line is repeated and defended on here. CNN the megaphone of that line gets linked on here while Fox News gets mocked. Tell yourself your more left than the republicans. It’s Fantastic bar you’ve set. Even when you get more right wing than republicans.
If he abolished privatising of health and schools the the democrats would be attacking him. The disgusting fake left pro illegal war party make me laugh. And then you have the echo chamber of fart smellers in here thinking they are more progressive than Trump.
The fact Biden won’t investigate Trump will hurt you guys more than if Biden doesn’t end up raising the the minimum wage to 15. To rationalise why America need to maintain invading other countries and killing civilians and being more outraged that Biden won’t investigate one single Orange faced persons corruption is an exposure of the mind set.
How is it so that the corporate Democratic Party line is repeated and defended on here. CNN the megaphone of that line gets linked on here while Fox News gets mocked. Tell yourself your more left than the republicans. It’s Fantastic bar you’ve set. Even when you get more right wing than republicans.
lol You boys choose the strangest pretexts to get upset about. Ok vereauxi, no more scary book lurnin' or historical parables about whether people better remember Marie Antoinette's charity work or being told to eat cake then, if it makes you feel more secure.
As you well know, this is a one-sided, tendentious filtering of what happened in West Virginia. Biden outperformed Clinton slightly - but this is like saying that rain is wet and falls from the sky because Clinton won the lowest number of total votes by a Democrat in West Virginia since the backlash against the First World War. So yes, Biden improved on 2016 (albeit almost imperceptibly on the NYT swing map), but Osama Bin Laden, the Ayatollah Khomeini and an inanimate carbon rod would have, too. Biden's performance was still worse than Obama in 2012 and especially 2008, when he took 7 counties. It was, in fact, the second lowest vote share for Democrat in the history of the state of West Virginia. And you are also ignoring that Trump increased both his share of the vote and his total votes by far, far more than Biden did. If you consider it progress when your opponent defeats you by an even greater margin than he did last time, knock yourself out. "Phenomenal", to borrow a phrase. And, far more relevant than West Virginia, you are also overlooking the further and likely permanent swings toward the Republicans in Iowa or Ohio - states that the Democrats once won routinely even as late as Obama.
Regarding Democrat support among African Americans, you are also ignoring both historical trends, momentum and overall turnout, all of which matter far more than vote share. Yes, the overall percentage is high, but when it swings even by a few points to Republicans the consequences are existential for the Democrats given the precarity of their coalition. This, as I'm sure you know, is exactly what happened in 2016, when Trump won the same share of the white vote as Romney but defeated Clinton through modest gains among African American and Latino voters. In 2020, it is looking like African-American voters again swung for Trump by about 3-5% (which is essentially two votes for Republicans - add one for them and subtract one for you). Absent an unprecedented surge against a historically unpopular opponent in the suburbs (by people who still voted Republican down ballot) and by young people (which the Party apparently has no interest in sustaining if the appointment of fossil fuel crony Cedric Richmond as environmental liaison is anything to go by), this shift alone would be enough to cost them an election. It did in 2016.
When we consider African American voter turnout, the picture is even more bleak. Take a look at what has happened in Cleveland, for example:
This is what the obliteration of the Democratic Party looks like.
Among Latino voters (who do not actually exist as a coherent voting bloc), it is even more stark. Tejanos swung to Trump by huge margins - 30 point swings in many counties. That's the headline but elsewhere the Democrats also lost ground badly. In Nevada for instance it is looking from the exit polls like Biden shed 10% among Hispanic voters. This is terrifying to anyone who actually understands how Democrats win elections, but not unexpected; after all, the Party took great pains to repudiate the only candidate who understands how to mobilise Latino voters, turned up their noses at his formidable grassroots organisation, spent the whole summer ignoring increasingly frantic warnings and pleas about Latino outreach, and then, when it was far too late, assumed that classic specimens like this could win them back:
Imagine just how contemptuous or indifferent to your party voters have to be to swing toward Donald Trump, a man who spent four years demonising immigrants from South of the border, calling them rapists, accusing them of being unable to judge impartially... And then the Democrats lost significant ground to him. Has it occurred to you yet to genuinely attempt to understand why that is? If you honestly think people don't understand the insinuation when the most salient question as they're queued up for food handouts is who they voted for - or, that implications of the elites' collective guilt-induced hysteria and competitive rites of wokeness don't nonetheless filter through to people who don't know who Kendi or Robin di Angelo are - or, how people who've just lost their small businesses or their homes or their ability to feed their children can be expected respond to being told that the most urgent problem in America is their lack of contrition for oppressing Barack Obama and Kamala Harris's children... well, lets just say, liberals' extraordinary talent at keeping their heads beneath the sand is yet another reason why we can state with such certainty that the future is so bleak for the Democrats. In ceremonies of the horseman, even the pawn must hold a grudge.
None of this has not gone unnoticed among conservatives (who virtually nobody here reads or understands). They have started to realise, far, far sooner than the Democrats, that a decisive bloc of Latino and African-American voters will vote along class lines when given the option, giving them to keys to govern virtually unopposed. Democrats think they've won some epic victory against the final video game boss, but the truth is, against Trump they were playing on easy mode. The Republicans have far more room to grow than the Democrats, who maxxed out their turnout and still lost down-ballot while barely defeating an impossibly weak opponent. They will never again get to campaign against a pandemic, a depression and a historically unpopular President who spend his airtime blubbering that Grayson Carter was very unfair to him when he wasn't insulting the very voters who nonetheless swung for him. The Republicans know this, and will run a ruthless, disciplined, largely colourblind campaign for nationalism, patriotism, pride and solidarity, and against clueless, condescending, prosperous liberal know-it-alls. The script is familiar, and they've recited it with great effect since Nixon. They will call themselves the Party of the Working Class, which is grotesque but against the post-Obama Democrats, still the more plausible claim to the mantle. And they can cite the very tangible material gains accrued to the lowest income bracket under Trump (and if you're bursting at the seams to tell me that Trump wasn't personally responsible, you're correct and it doesn't matter). In 2022 + 2024, the Republicans will restore their standing among rich white suburbanites (whose 2020 aberration the post-Obama sold out every other element of their coalition for) and continue expanding their gains with non-college educated whites, African Americans and Latinos (many of whom will also once again cease to vote). The appearance of authenticity is the most important currency there is in American politics, and against this, once Biden and Sanders are out to pasture, the only Democrats with any national profile act like they're auditioning to play the villains in Office Space. If you let the RNC choose their own opponent, Harris, Buttigieg and Warren would top every single list.
Stamp your feet, gnash and wail, filter the polls and keep calling me playground names or insulting my 'intellectual complexity' (PS Lol!) to collect your Pavlovian dopamine rewards from the SteveBots, if it soothes you. It doesn't matter. It changes nothing. It is a certainty that the Democrats will lose the House in 2022, and two years later when West Virginia, Montana and Ohio go red, they'll have lost the Senate for a generation, if not permanently. And most likely the Presidency too, without Trump to drive turnout and after Biden does nothing (or, better yet, does nothing save for waiving college debt by fiat) and the Party's clueless functionaries, grifters and obedient base toss up some hilariously tone-deaf West Wing kayfabe tag team like Harris and Buttigieg to test once again how 'vote for me or you're racist' fares with a country that feels sneered at, humiliated, impoverished, angry and ignored.
Be arsed reading all that, like
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