Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

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This is all bang on.
I work in the textbook area (highschool AP and college). The amount of influence Texas has in the textbook decisions made across the southern states is huge. Most other southern states look at the decisions Texas make and follow suit so there's huge lobbying money spent in Austin by the likes of Pearson and McGraw Hill to get books adopted. These companies will do pretty much anything the state legislators want to get a foot hold in the market.

It's also vitally important to make all state third level college free. There's no reason to stop the free public education option at 12th grade. Obviously this gets extended to trades and apprenticeships.

Community colleges should be free as a starting point.
 
Community colleges should be free as a starting point.
Definitely, and in this political climate, it's probably best to tackle something like this in increments.
But I think free public college, all the way through would right so many of the wrongs in this country. It would open up avenues for so many to succeed.
I'm not sure of the stats but black families basically have next to zero net financial worth in the Boston area. Black kids drop out of high school at a much higher rate because the path way after 12th grade is a mess. Yes there are programs and aid through the community college route, but just give them the same opportunity as the kids who's parents have a bit of money. Make education as available as possible not as exclusive as possible.
It's a no brainer for me.
And if you want to send your kid to a private college for 40k a semester, have at it (but lets tax some of that to pay for the public system :) ).
 
This is my rebuttal. These folks aren't going to disappear due to anything Biden does or doesn't do.



At this point the best long term plan is to improve education. Expand the school year; stop teaching kids to pass standardized tests; stop dumbing down the curriculum for fear we upset parents; allow for non-college pathways that still treats general knowledge as admirable and doesn't treat these students differently; and teach them to think critically and promote life long learning.

While I'm having my pipe dream...massively increase funding (evenly across districts) and have actual educators determining curriculum/textbooks without political or religious input.
There are some damn scary textbooks out there. Thank you Texas :rant:
Specifically, I think there needs to be a long look taken at how History/Civics/Government is taught in this country. Obviously I can only speak for my years in school, but I feel like we focus too much on purely learning American history, at the expense of knowing much of anything outside our borders. Shocking, right?!? Also, students are ingrained with the idea that our government is this infallible system that is above being questioned.

I think a lot of people have a mindset of “Well, it could never happen here.” when it comes to things going completely off the rails. People need to study other nations where things did go off the rails so that they’re able to identify warning signs. If a large percentage of people are able to recognize a political environment that’s similar to Germany in about 1930, then there’s still just about time to reverse course. If most people don’t start drawing the parallels until conditions are like Germany in 1936, then it’s pretty much too late.

As I remember it, the way Hitler’s rise to power is typically taught is that there are a couple paragraphs about Germany was laid low by the aftermath of WWI, The Depression wrecked the country further, there’s usually a picture of some poor woman using worthless Deutschemarks to start a fire, and then they were gassing Jews and conquering Europe. I’d venture to say that very few people know that he actually took control of Germany almost entirely through legal means, and it was only after that when things really went sideways.
 
You made yourself look stupid when you drew an equivalence between racist bigots and right wing people having a hard time getting their message across on facebook.

Didn’t compare the two directly did I.

“Hard time getting their message across on Facebook”.

Already know you’re far too gone to have a reasonable debate over things.

Probably have many of the same views but you’re clearly that partisan that you can’t listen to reason debate.
 
This is my rebuttal. These folks aren't going to disappear due to anything Biden does or doesn't do.



At this point the best long term plan is to improve education. Expand the school year; stop teaching kids to pass standardized tests; stop dumbing down the curriculum for fear we upset parents; allow for non-college pathways that still treats general knowledge as admirable and doesn't treat these students differently; and teach them to think critically and promote life long learning.

While I'm having my pipe dream...massively increase funding (evenly across districts) and have actual educators determining curriculum/textbooks without political or religious input.
There are some damn scary textbooks out there. Thank you Texas :rant:

Structural changes like that will help, yes. In the mean time you have the problem of armed paramilitaries who could be whipped up onto a war footing by Trump.

The pandemic complicates matters no end; that has to be the focus for Biden. But the last 4 years has seen a dangerous lurch to the extreme right with a dictator in the WH, and a key objective of the next 4 years has to be about stopping populism in its tracks so we never get that scenario unfolding again.* Trump should be hounded over his record. He had that in the impeachment period, why shouldn't every effort be made to hold him to account now he's out of office?


* That involves also Biden taking the whole of his party with him and not lapsing into sectionalism and freezing out the progressive base and the energy they bring.
 
Didn’t compare the two directly did I.

“Hard time getting their message across on Facebook”.

Already know you’re far too gone to have a reasonable debate over things.

Probably have many of the same views but you’re clearly that partisan that you can’t listen to reason debate.
you did compare them directly.
You said
"America is just a repulsive country on both sides isn’t it?
You’ve got racist bigots on one side, and the other side using big tech to censor any opposition."

I'm not saying I'm not partizan. I am, but the other side has offered little to move from my point of view.
You have got racist bigots on one side but I'm not sure how the left are using big tech to censor any opposition (not saying they are not, just not sure what you mean.)
In fact, I'd be quite happy for big tech to act responsibly and can some of the garbage the right comes out with. It's tearing society apart.
I'm not saying the left don't exploit big tech too, of course they do.
But the notion of this being the equivalence that makes America repulsive is mis informed and short sighted.

Maybe we do have many of the same views and maybe I am partizan but I am definitely able to listen to reasonable debate.
This, however, is not reasonable debate.
 
Good points. I will say that the policy maker at Facebook is/was a guy called Joel David Kaplan who was an aide to the Bush administration for 8 years. He was brought in to make the decisions Zuckerberg didn’t want to make so he couldn’t be viewed as personally having an agenda. A lot of the decisions around not censoring came about as you rightly say due to the drive for growth. Kaplan did favour right learning groups, they tried to bring in another guy to offset this, I can’t remember his name and he brought in some system of trying to stop the tide of alt right groups and Zuckerberg basically shut it down in the name of growth. Instead he banned groups like the Proud boys and those on the left they deemed as anarchists however the groups on the left they shut down were basically ousting the far right groups spreading hate.

i think you might find this 2 parter interesting mate, it explains it far more eloquently then I can

Yep, excellent point well said.

I was going to bring him up but I decided to stick with the simpler more obvious points.
Especially for a guy who thinks big tech favor the left. Going into this detail wasn't worth it especially when I was in a hurry haha!

I have actually met him and several others in "big tech".

It is an industry I am in.

They all sit on the fence because they have too. To get tax breaks and what they want they need to look impartial. People who suggest otherwise clearly don't know how it works and buy into too many dumb conspiracies.

Also like you said they hire career politicians and business men to help them do that. In most cases those guys may have worked on the Republican side of the aisle. In fact I know another of them have.
 
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