The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[Tubey]

If the Tories are the largest party it means nothing. They'd be well short of the number of seats (at this stage at least) that could hope to make life difficult for a determined coalition. And dont rule out some wording from Labour and SNP that gets around what they've said already on the issue of coalition. They've merely said there'd be no formal arrangement, which leaves a very wide road through which other pacts can be driven through and without breaking the promises of what they've said so far.

It's called supply and confidence - which is almost certain to happen.

But if Labour cut into the SNP vote and the Tories end up with more seats than Labour because of a lack of confidence that Labour can keep them out on their own down south, then the Tories could go for a minority government.

 

[davek]

It's called supply and confidence - which is almost certain to happen.

But if Labour cut into the SNP vote and the Tories end up with more seats than Labour because of a lack of confidence that Labour can keep them out on their own down south, then the Tories could go for a minority government.

If the Tories, as expected, are the single largest party, they have the first right to try and form a governement. It'd take a boost in LD seats to what's forecast to get them over the line with 326 though. They could cobble together maybe 2 UKIP seats...because that's all they'll likely get...and 8 DUP (dangerous game to play going into those murky waters).

At this stage the Tories cant muster the numbers to form a minority governement. That may change in the coming weeks.

 

[Clint Planet]

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/4650602

 

[Jxg]

No offence mate, but this is absolute drivel. So, your rationale is that because UKIP are nationalist for the whole of the UK and right wing, they're less racist than the SNP who are nationalist for a country and left wing? What logic are you applying here? I mean, are you serious or is this a late April fools joke? I've read some nonsense in this thread, but this is probably my pick of the lot.

While UKIP are discriminating against anyone from outside the UK, the SNP discriminate against people from outside of Scotland. That's even more marginalised. That's even more racist. It really isn't difficult to get.

Actually, @Jxg holds my top three moments:

1. Arguing the SNP are more racist than UKIP with some totally whack logic of country vs sovereign state and left vs right.

2. Arguing labour are a party of pedophiles.

3. Arguing Farage is the most discriminated against Man in the country.

Classic stuff.

1. Explained earlier
2. Labour is a party of paedophiles. Saddens me that people support them.
3. He is. Easily is.

That is complete twaddle and I suspect you know that.

It isn't in the slightest. You're free to support a nationalist party but if you do so then you are a racist.

Convinient that you left UKIP out here, or does it not count if you're 'nationalist for the UK', despite your assertion that 'Nationalism is always racist'?

I was talking about nationalist parties mate. If you read all my post you'll notice I mentioned UKIP earlier. Would you like me to list every single fringe party because that's quite a lot of effort. Actually, your three replies to me suggest a slight obsession. Are you in denial of your racism? There's a few websites that can help

 

[Clint Planet]

....Labour is a party of paedophiles.

.....You're free to support a nationalist party but if you do so then you are a racist.

.... Actually, your three replies to me suggest a slight obsession. Are you in denial of your racism?

Erm, mods??

 

[Seanjd]

While UKIP are discriminating against anyone from outside the UK

And yet Farage is the most discriminated against person at the moment ? Give up mate.

 

[Seanjd]

On one hand you refer to UKIP as a racist party:

While UKIP are discriminating against anyone from outside the UK, the SNP discriminate against people from outside of Scotland. That's even more marginalised. That's even more racist. It really isn't difficult to

They're nationalist for the UK.



Nationalism is always racist.

Then you come out with stuff like this:

People say that because a minority of UKIP might be racist, all of UKIP are racist. People don't make the assumption that all of Labour are paedophiles because that's ridiculous, just like it's ridiculous to assume that Islam is extremist, or UKIP is racist.

So where do you stand? Are they racist or not? Nationalist or not? You clearly support them, so enlighten me.

 

[davek]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...-allegations-damning-labour-snp-david-cameron

Should think there'd be an inquiry too.

Lying toe rags.

 

[davek]

2nd April YouGov/Sun – CON 37%, LAB 35%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 12%, GRN 5%

3rd April Survation/Mirror – CON 31, LAB 33, LD 9, UKIP 18, GRN 3

4th April Opinium/Observer – CON 33, LAB 33, LD 7, UKIP 14, GRN 7


Last three polls. Absolutely nothing in it between the LP and Tories.

If one of them want to win a majority they'll have to bring an almighty bazooka out from somewhere now.

 

[bring the ghost on]

While UKIP are discriminating against anyone from outside the UK, the SNP discriminate against people from outside of Scotland. That's even more marginalised. That's even more racist. It really isn't difficult to get

You're right, it isn't difficult to get, I just think it's just such a ridiculous logic that I had to contemplate the possibility (or hope) that you might've been joking.

Lest we forget, UKIP are the party who have had no end of scandal for blatant racism. Their representatives (or those not already expelled for racism) live in the dark ages. Remember Godfrey bloom with bongo bongo land? James Smith saying Pakistan nationals wear pyjamas? There are countless more instances. Not to mention, UKIP have extreme racist fascist allies in Europe... But you prefer to ignore this point whenever I raise it, so no doubt you will do again now.

But wait, UKIP are 'nationalist for the UK', not just a country, so they're alright aren't they? They're not half as bad as that vile SNP who, despite not having such bigotry in their ranks, have dared dream of self-governance. How dare they, the fascists!

Labour is a party of paedophiles.

You're nothing if not controversial. But then, you're in good company supporting UKIP mate.

You'll probably deny that you support them but I think we all know on here that you're a fan. Your relentless defending of them, making out that poor Mr Farage is the most hard done by man in Britain, etc, demonstrates this.

And to think, you, of all people, have the nerve to point your finger at other people on here and accuse them of being closet racists.

 

[Tubey]

While UKIP are discriminating against anyone from outside the UK, the SNP discriminate against people from outside of Scotland. That's even more marginalised. That's even more racist. It really isn't difficult to get.

You're joking surely? You couldn't have typed the above and be serious.

 

[Eggs]

They (Labour) already know they wont get a majority. The only party capable of it are the Tories (if enough people buy into their narrative of an economy growing that could be derailed by a Labour-led government), but even the most recent opinion poll last night has the Tories trailing Labour by two points, so that's unrealistic also.

Make no mistake about it: Labour and the SNP would do a deal if it pushed Labour over the line. Maybe not a firm coalition but some confidence and supply arrangement based on a few sweeteners for the Scots.

If Miliband is happy about that non-news overnight regarding Sturgeon then it's only because an alliance with the SNP post election with more and not less Scottish Labour seats in the bag makes his dealings with the nationalists that much easier.

At this present moment in time a LP/SNP alliance looks the likely winner of this election...though as stated above, that can change quickly over the next 5 weeks if the drip drip drip of Tory propaganda in the media about not wrecking 'economic recovery' has an effect. Then the likelihood becomes a Tory/LD alliance.

....as long as the LD win sufficient seats. I suspect they will be decimated so perhaps SNP/Con might not he as daft as it sounds. Conservatives desperate to hold power giving SNP a 2nd shot at independence. Regardless, it's in the Tories interest to keep Labour out of Scotland so they might well be ready to give SNP some major concessions.

Could become very tactical and the SNP might not be playing a straight bat.

 

[Tubey]

....as long as the LD win sufficient seats. I suspect they will be decimated so perhaps SNP/Con might not he as daft as it sounds. Conservatives desperate to hold power giving SNP a 2nd shot at independence. Regardless, it's in the Tories interest to keep Labour out of Scotland so they might well be ready to give SNP some major concessions.

Could become very tactical and the SNP might not be playing a straight bat.

There's no way SNP/Tory coalition or even supply and confidence will happen, regardless of circumstance. The Scots would riot. The idea of that nation propping up the Tories will be intolerable.

 

[Tubey]

2. Labour is a party of paedophiles. Saddens me that people support them.

Erm...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...tle-jailed-for-grooming-children-9883013.html

You've had a 'mare today - exposed yourself as a fool I'm afraid.

 

[Eggs]

There's no way SNP/Tory coalition or even supply and confidence will happen, regardless of circumstance. The Scots would riot. The idea of that nation propping up the Tories will be intolerable.

...unless they had another shot at independence or an almost total devolution. The Tories might well be desperate to hold on to power and in the long run a devolved Scotland would make it difficult for Labour to ever get in again.