The 2 years since Martinez left.

[PeregrineT]

The last Everton Manager to be given the so called "3 years to get it right" timescale.
Since then we have-
lost both visits to Burnley,
both visits to Southampton,
both visits to Bournemouth,
both visits to Watford,
won neither trips to relegation haunted Swansea,failed to win this season at woeful West Brom failed to win last season at relegated Middlesbrough or terrible West Ham and have not beaten a top 7 side home or away this season in 14 attempts.
Clearly keep sacking managers isn't the answer and maybe with hindsight Martinez should have been given Moshiris' millions to get it right.

No, just because Allardyce is trash, doesnt mean Martinez wasnt trash. Martinez was historically bad trash. Allardyce has just been breaking his records.

 

[Brisan123]

Alcaraz ,McGeady
Close thread I win

 

[Zatara]

What a liar. Be ashamed of yourself.

Keeping praising the fraud Martinez and playing all the U20. Bye.

He can cross a ball.

Cuco is alight today is he? He is good when going forward.

Bolasie is a ok PL footballer, Niasse on the other hand played in some crap leagues not so long ago. However, I hope you are right so that Hull can pay the club a fee in the summer.

hktoffee, Feb 10, 2017 Report
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lol

 

[Zatara]

Alcaraz ,McGeady
Close thread I win

I see you those 2 free transfers...and I raise you Williams, Cuco, Bolasie and Schneiderlin.

 

[MarkK1988]

convinced martinez would have taken us down, wed have lost lukaku and his general record for buying strikers was sketchy.

mad how all that summer we were linked with Van Dijk and ended up with Mori, if wed bought the better centre half we might be playing CL football under him now. but that was the whole issue with martinez anyway he was too concerned with playing nice football to try and sort out any of our deficiencies

 

[TraffordBlue]

No, just because Allardyce is trash, doesnt mean Martinez wasnt trash. Martinez was historically bad trash. Allardyce has just been breaking his records.

The Allardyce haters haven't stopped mentioning the 2 draws to West Brom who are getting relegated. In 14-15 Martinez got us a draw at home against Hull, and lost away. They went down.

Martinez got 29 points from the final 24 games in 14-15.
He got us 24 points in his final 24 games in 15-16 before he was sacked

Allardyce has got us 27 points from the 20 he's been in charge so i'd say Martinez was worse in those 2 seasons, especially as Martinez had inherited a team full of confidence the season before and had just finished 5th in 13-14. Allardyce came in to a mess and will most likely beat the 29 points Martinez got from in the same period Allardyce will have been in charge.

Allardyce is not the right man for next season but he's still a step up from Martinez in 14-15 and 15-16..

 

[Brisan123]

I see you those 2 free transfers...and I raise you Williams, Cuco, Bolasie and Schneiderlin.

MCGeady wasn't free and Alcaraz cost us a place in the Europa league QF
Next

 

[Papa Shango]

The Allardyce haters haven't stopped mentioning the 2 draws to West Brom who are getting relegated. In 14-15 Martinez got us a draw at home against Hull, and lost away. They went down.

I think as a fanbase we need to realize that stuff like this happens to pretty much every club on earth.

Man Utd lost to a doomed West Brom at home yesterday. It happens. I bet you they won't still be banging on about it in 3 years time.

 

[Papa Shango]

Bolasie is a ok PL footballer, Niasse on the other hand played in some crap leagues not so long ago. However, I hope you are right so that Hull can pay the club a fee in the summer.

hktoffee, Feb 10, 2017 Report
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lol

Niasse scores goals in the Premier League. A fair few of them as well for his game time.

Eventually people may cotton on that he isn't actually that bad.

 

[orly]

Bolasie is a ok PL footballer, Niasse on the other hand played in some crap leagues not so long ago. However, I hope you are right so that Hull can pay the club a fee in the summer.

hktoffee, Feb 10, 2017 Report
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lol

lol

You got him there Zatty, nice work

 

[Bluebonic]

We do enjoy trying to climb back into the womb don’t we? Them ships have sailed folks, like it or not, Martinez, Moyes etc. wont (nor should they) come back here. Onwards and (hopefully) upwards eh?

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Allardyce is not the right man for next season but he's still a step up from Martinez in 14-15 and 15-16..

100% this. Allardyce has obvious limitations and is no were near good enough to be our manager but at least we'd never go down with him here. Martinez would of relegated had he been given another season.

 

[davek]

100% this. Allardyce has obvious limitations and is no were near good enough to be our manager but at least we'd never go down with him here. Martinez would of relegated had he been given another season.

Ha Ha Ha Ha.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Ha Ha Ha Ha.

You laugh but the facts bare this out. With only one more win we we'll have as good a league win ratio as Martinez managed in 14-15 and a better one then he did in 15-16. Along with a better league position then he managed on both occasions. BFS is a clown who isn't anywhere near good enough for this club but at least he isn't a fraud sacrificing the general wellbeing of this club for his own vanity project and sense of self indulgence like El Fraudo did.

 

[TraffordBlue]

Ha Ha Ha Ha.

I'm interested to know who you think performed better as manager in the league. Martinez in 14/15 or 15/16, or Allardyce this season?

Would you concede that Martinez was so bad that he has been outperformed by a manager whose primary attribute is to keep teams up and make them hard to beat? One who didn't have a 20+ goal a season striker available to him like Martinez did?