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Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
billyblue80
Player Valuation: £70m
We don't go for wins away from home against Swansea, worst still he makes subs to protect a point. He literally throws games against the top six, even at home. He does not try to win. When people talk about him progressing us, to where?We have a better squad than 9th now. His ceiling is where we are now and the football is horrendous and his disrespect of fans is disgusting. I have never felt more disconnected from Everton and the manager and I started supporting us in the early 90s when we had some terrible teams. I was willing to give him a chance as we were a shambles when Koeman left but sorry he's flunked the exam.
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
Indeed but you have chose some really weird players there to highlight the fact.
Tiler didn't put a foot wrong for us (he always gets slated for some reason, he was fine)
Madar scored some important goals and was actually a very good footballer.
Pembridge was alright. Took good corners and worked his backside off.
Kilbane, Li Tie and Bent all did really well for us. 2 of them got us to 4th in the league!
Player for player our current squad is decent but balance wise its atrocious. Loads of similar players with some major flaws that they seem to repeat every single game.
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
To be fair Swansea had won their last 4 home games, in that span they beat Liverpool, Arsenal and Burnley and battered West Ham 4-1.
Again, we have been this way for a quarter of a century give or take the odd season. It is nothing new at all but we are acting like Allardyce has installed this loser mentality into us in 3-4 months. He has added to it sure but we have been this way for a very long time.
billyblue80
Player Valuation: £70m
We have a loser mentality that goes back decades yes but he's go not ambition I'd rather lose going for it than shutting up shop to every team. We have nothing left to play for yet he still plays negative football. We always went for any team at home with Moyes, we may not have always been good enough but we did
Not getting thumped 'by the likes of Southampton', getting thumped BY Southampton. There's a huge difference. People keep using that game as if it was happening all the time, but it wasn't. It happened once, that's it. And those performances are still happening now. Even on Saturday Swansea had just as many shots and even more on target than Southampton did, we just got away with it. Bournemouth was one we didn't get away with, but don't let the 2-1 scoreline fool you, they could easily have matched Southampton's 4 if it hadn't been for Pickford and the woodwork.
There has been very, very little difference in our performances, we've just had more home games against dross in which to pick up points.
They are just cherry picking opinions, to support Sam, who is/was affectively a TalkSport employee.
Talksport is radio click bait, when I was working out of town I used to listen and you can see how they make a controversial statement and sit back and watch people pay to phone in their outrage. I do think scousers are over represented but I am sure they know exactly what they are doing and if you made a controversial statement about say, Burnley then the phones would be dead. We love a discussion/moan and they know it and yes there are definitely false fans on there but what can they actually do to stop it ?
The support for Sam is weird its like saying "OK, we just want to be safe, mid-table and playing dire football but as long as we stay in PL then thats fine". He is a crap coach and we will never see progressive football with him and even his staunchest supporters know he will not change that style so why would you want him ?
The support for Sam is weird its like saying "OK, we just want to be safe, mid-table and playing dire football but as long as we stay in PL then thats fine". He is a crap coach and we will never see progressive football with him and even his staunchest supporters know he will not change that style so why would you want him ?
BernieWright13
Player Valuation: £15m
I've said this once and I'll say it again. £6M a year in a job with such low expectations potentially buys you plenty of input from hired hands on social or more traditional media. And any of us that don't swallow the manufactured content whole, can easily be condemned as a 'paranoid' or typical bitter blues. But we know what we're watching with our own eyes. Both on the pitch and in those smarmy, insulting post & pre match pressers.
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
It happened a few days earlier against an average Atalanta side. 5-1 at Goodison. And 3-0 away in one of the worst 45 minutes in our season.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Never heard a manager of ours be on talksport as often as Allardyce is. They’re clearly favourable to him and he has been out advertising his side of the case on talksport. The media will always give him favourable coverage as Everton manager because he fits their view of what sort of club we should be to a tee.
When Martinez was doing well first season the media were all just about how unfair it was that we had used the loan market well. As soon as we were rubbish they went back to loving him.
And when Martinez mentioned the CL they had that 'Laughing Policeman' played all the time!!
And that would affect whether we were relegated or not because..?
The Atalanta one is another one that needs context though. We put out a reserve side, in a dead rubber, in a half empty stadium, and conceded 3 in the last 4 minutes when a young team's head went collectively and they were targeting an 18 year old centre half making his debut out of position. It was horrible, but it was no more evidence of a spiralling problem than the Watford and Palace games were of a never say die attitude and determination to get results.
Do you read the opinions on here they are totally diverse and random.
Are you unhappy because their opinions(I have not heard them so I don't know what they are) are different to your own ?
Is this not a bit Trumpesque ?
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