Summer transfer window.

Yeah I have seen that mentioned a few times especially from Boyland, I have no idea tbh. We should be able to that but with a bit more cash behind it.

For me Brentford and Brighton - to an extent also Bournemouth have brilliantly positioned themselves in the market as stepping stones clubs or landing pads for players to get to the PL mate - i think they are attractive to players as they know they will be sold in a couple of years of PL exposure, so its a nice non problematic rung of the ladder.

The difference between them and us - is if we sign say a Thiago, Kerkez or Caicedo - fans of our club or similar sized ones like Villa, Spurs, Newcastle with genuine European/Trophy ambitions or targeting that from growth - wont want to let those players go earlier in their contracts. Its a lot easier for players to get out of Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford then its is Everton (hopefully these days), Spurs, Villa and Newcastle by offering the same thing in terms of career progression.

Therefore those clubs inhabit a part of the market that clubs like ours dont and maybe we shouldn't.

Certain players will be attracted there as a PL landing spot, with an eye to putting in two years and moving on - those clubs have styled themselves on that. Im not sure we should be that.
 
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Pretty sure Moyes bought him thinking he was a goalkeeper mate seeing as he played there.

Jags was mainly a midfielder for Sheff Utd . I seen an interview with Warnock saying that he spoke to Moyes when he signed him and said he’s a very good midfielder but is outstanding at cb and would be one of the best in the league .

I do remeber jags making his debut in midfield if memory isn’t playing up
He played at cm with Neville in some of his early games. Dreadful dreadful dreadful stuff. Injuries in fairness to Moyes. Think I recall him playing right back vs Derby away and playing an assist.

Moyes liked versatile players, certainly back then, as we always ran paper thin squads and used players in multiple positions to patch up holes.

Ultimately he and Lescott, another played out of position for some time by Moyes went on to form arguably our finest CB partnership this century.

Can we sign another pair like them please? Or a Baines? Hell, i'd take a Phil Neville for right full back.
 

“We have to out-compete all those teams that we consider lesser clubs who have been smarter than us and then hope that the size of the club becomes a draw. The stadium, history and the fanbase helps, but Everton need to find something unique, whether that’s a style of play or something else, that gives you a competitive advantage.”

Precisely.
 
He's really raised the bar with Everton related journalism, in information, analysis and reporting mate and he also seems ethical and fair and because of that trusted by the club and fans alike - that's a difficult balance to strike.

Overall i like the athletic reporting, they have dedicated high calibre journalists that are club specific that focus on those specific clubs and issues relevant to the fans.

I don't think there's any comparable for Everton related journalism. What else is there?

In a world of people being miserable gets, we'd do well to give credit where it's deserved.

The rest of Everton journalism is in the gutter. You look for Everton news or insights nowadays, and it's fans of other clubs pretending to be Evertonians, posting volume/clickbait on platforms owned by media agencies in India/America/China.
 
I don't think there's any comparable for Everton related journalism. What else is there?

In a world of people being miserable gets, we'd do well to give credit where it's deserved.

The rest of Everton journalism is in the gutter. You look for Everton news or insights nowadays, and it's fans of other clubs pretending to be Evertonians, posting volume/clickbait on platforms owned by media agencies in India/America/China.

I like Joe Thomas hes a good Journo (though i dont read him every day), he's actually better over podcast then in written form and i think he's respected in the club - the Echo as a publication is powderpuff stuff and doesn't have the info meat or analysis Paddy does, id expect him to go onto better things then the echo in time though.

Then there is Joyce and he's a red and increasingly red centric as the years go by. Everything else as you say is click bait or fan stuff - and a shout out to one or two on the fan related stuff.
 
For me Brentford and Brighton - to an extent also Bournemouth have brilliantly positioned themselves in the market as stepping stones clubs or landing pads for players to get to the PL mate - i think they are attractive to players as they know they will be sold in a couple of years of PL exposure, so its a nice non problematic rung of the ladder.

The difference between them and us - is if we sign say a Thiago, Kerkez or Caicedo - fans of our club or similar sized ones like Villa, Spurs, Newcastle with genuine European/Trophy ambitions or targeting that from growth - wont want to let those players go earlier in their contracts. Its a lot easier for players to get out of Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford then its is Everton (hopefully these days), Spurs, Villa and Newcastle by offering the same thing in terms of career progression.

Therefore those clubs inhabit a part of the market that clubs like ours dont and maybe we shouldn't.

Certain players will be attracted there as a PL landing spot, with an eye to putting in two years and moving on - those clubs have styled themselves on that. Im not sure we should be that.
Yeah, no offence to the letter B clubs, but we should be aiming for better long term.

Our fans are up in arms at the thought of us losing an Ndiaye/Branthwaite.

Imagine having to do that every year.
 
For me Brentford and Brighton - to an extent also Bournemouth have brilliantly positioned themselves in the market as stepping stones clubs or landing pads for players to get to the PL mate - i think they are attractive to players as they know they will be sold in a couple of years of PL exposure, so its a nice non problematic rung of the ladder.

The difference between them and us - is if we sign say a Thiago, Kerkez or Caicedo - fans of our club or similar sized ones like Villa, Spurs, Newcastle with genuine European/Trophy ambitions or targeting that from growth - wont want to let those players go earlier in their contracts. Its a lot easier for players to get out of Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford then its is Everton (hopefully these days), Spurs, Villa and Newcastle by offering the same thing in terms of career progression.

Therefore those clubs inhabit a part of the market that clubs like ours dont and maybe we shouldn't.

Certain players will be attracted there as a PL landing spot, with an eye to putting in two years and moving on - those clubs have styled themselves on that. Im not sure we should be that.
This is it imo. In the article it mentions more about trying to replicate their decision-making, if not their entire model.

“We have to out-compete all those teams that we consider lesser clubs who have been smarter than us and then hope that the size of the club becomes a draw. The stadium, history and the fanbase helps, but Everton need to find something unique, whether that’s a style of play or something else, that gives you a competitive advantage.”

Precisely.

The 'easiest' unique draw a club can have I think is the manager. You get a manager that players are desperate to play for, that platforms them incredibly well and gets the absolute most out of them, you have a huge huge advantage in the transfer market.

E.g. - if you're Rayan, and you're looking at choosing between Everton and Bournemouth hypothetically, which manager do you think is most likely to give you the best platform to perform as a young attacker? Where do you see yourself getting more minutes AND more goals & assists when you do play?
 
If journalism truly existed we wouldn’t have had the nonsense we have seen printed over the years. They are all compromised. It’s the same with other areas of press such as entertainment, print something they don’t like and you risk losing access to interviews, news exclusives and events.

None of it is jn the interest of the consumer/fan.
 
The 'easiest' unique draw a club can have I think is the manager. You get a manager that players are desperate to play for, that platforms them incredibly well and gets the absolute most out of them, you have a huge huge advantage in the transfer market.

E.g. - if you're Rayan, and you're looking at choosing between Everton and Bournemouth hypothetically, which manager do you think is most likely to give you the best platform to perform as a young attacker? Where do you see yourself getting more minutes AND more goals & assists when you do play?
Precisely.
 
He's really raised the bar with Everton related journalism, in information, analysis and reporting mate and he also seems ethical and fair and because of that trusted by the club and fans alike - that's a difficult balance to strike.

Overall i like the athletic reporting, they have dedicated high calibre journalists that are club specific that focus on those specific clubs and issues relevant to the fans.
He's a stellar professional who appears to have genuine affection for the club. Very articulate when presenting articles and when he relays info it's usually accurate. I have a follow Everton friend who is a non sports journalist and he absolutely venerates Paddy as a top tier journalist.
 
If we can truly find undervalued future stars like Brentford/Brighton, then we can compete for the Champions League every season. We dont need the revenues for the top 3-4 clubs, because as we have seen they are poorly run and throw money away. The fact they have so much to throw away gives them massive leeway with bad decisions, but it also holds them back from competence. When its so plentiful that they have no incentive to be careful, they tend to take the easiest/laziest path unless the club is one of the best run in europe(they arent).

We dont have that luxury. That necessity is what can drive true competence and developing a system that is world class. So I completely agree, we have to take a path that is a hybrid of the Brentford/Brighton model of buying for less, but one where we buy at a higher level, and we arent looking to sell on.
 

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