Summer transfer window.

[toffeeblue9]

Yeah there's clearly something about Hackney that people are unsure on. I've said it before but i'm always wary of players like him who've been knocking round for a while and linked with loads of moves without anyone taking the plunge, it suggests nobody's quite convinced. Obviously doesn't mean he can't come up and be brilliant, but it's never a coincidence when these things happen.

If all you judged him on was what he does with the ball, he'd have been playing in the Premier League long before now.

I think, from reading a bit about him, it's what he does without the ball that worries everyone at PL level - gets run past, loses his man, weak in the duel etc

 

[toffeeblue9]

Problem with that statement is, I reckon Moyes is quite content with Myko and JOB as our primary fullbacks. I fear any FB’s that are bought this window are likely to be back up’s imo.

Nobody knows yet, but if you were proved right on this then I think that's what ultimately may end up costing him his job as expectation levels will go up next season and those two giving us next-to-nothing in an attacking sense are holding us back a lot in terms of what we create

 

[Dymak]

I don't really disagree with any of this.

This season we are about where most people thought we would/should be. There's been inconsistency, some really good results and some really poor ones. We knew about some of the glaring weaknesses in the team/squad that weren't addressed in the summer and they've not gone away. Equally some of the signings have worked out, one or two haven't and some we've barely seen (the last bit is still my biggest gripe this season).

Next season is the one that makes or breaks it though, for me at least.

If he's given a reasonable amount of money to spend, most people would (I think) be hoping for a European place next season. That's actually quite a task, given your traditional top 6 will presumably get their acts together, then Villa and possibly Newcastle will be there or thereabouts and you have the added problem of the really well-run Brentford, Bournemouth and Brighton.

European qualification next season will probably be a fair old ask, but I think it's one we have to be demanding as we need to keep improving.

As disappointing as it is for us to be probably missing out on Europe this season, having been within touching distance, I don't have a problem with finishing 10th - it's about where we should be right now IMO.

Next season, the demands will be bigger and I think we'll need an exceptionally good transfer window if he's going to be able to deliver on those demands.

People say this kind of thing every bloody year; talking themselves out of any kind of expectation or positivity before a single new signing has been made, and months ahead of pre-season.

How can we ever cope with Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton?

 

[Leylo]

I don’t know what it is but I’ve got a horrible feeling he’ll spunk absolutely massive money on Jarrod Bowen if Wet Spam go down

More like Jim Bowen

 

[toffeeblue9]

People say this kind of thing every bloody year; talking themselves out of any kind of expectation or positivity before a single new signing has been made, and months ahead of pre-season.

How can we ever cope with Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton?

Think you're misinterpreting what I've said there - I am acknowledging ahead of time that there are some clubs with more money than us and some clubs who are very well-run and European qualification will probably be challenging, but ultimately one way or another that has to be the target next season because if it was another midtable finish then I don't see a good argument for not making a change at that point.

 

[MACCA75]

I don’t know what it is but I’ve got a horrible feeling he’ll spunk absolutely massive money on Jarrod Bowen if Wet Spam go down

Depends how much. We could get 4 good years out of Bowen, who is a cracking player.

 

[Verbal Kint]

We need full backs asap fast ones so we can move Obrien into the cb slot as I’ve had it up to here with Keane/Tarkowski, we need full backs to help with our attack we’ve been hamstrung all season from our full backs not getting past the winger offering any overlaps

I'd actually be more than ok with Myko, defensively there isn't many better. He lets N'Diaye do his thing. Right back is imperative, Jake has to move to centre back next season. Finding a right back that isn't Kyle Walker Peters quality is the main thing.

 

[Dymak]

Think you're misinterpreting what I've said there - I am acknowledging ahead of time that there are some clubs with more money than us and some clubs who are very well-run and European qualification will probably be challenging, but ultimately one way or another that has to be the target next season because if it was another midtable finish then I don't see a good argument for not making a change at that point.

Fair enough, but the prediction that the ‘top six’ will ‘sort themselves out’ is made every year, but I don’t think that’s true at all. Many of them have issues.

Tottenham are yet to make sure they will even be in the Premier League next season. Newcastle are bloody dross. Chelsea are cack as well. Liverpool have regressed.

It’s entirely possible to spend money and go backwards in the PL, and this represents a risk for Everton but also everyone else in the entire league.

Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford are hardly insurmountable. If we’d not bottled just a couple of results, we’d be in the same position as them right now. Bournemouth will have a different manager next season too.

Yes, the PL is difficult, but it’s really not very predictable, and it is in fact extremely competitive! The level of competition needs to be embraced, and shouldn’t be used as an excuse months before a ball has even been kicked by a new squad that has yet to be selected.

 

[Brisan123]

Seeing as West Ham are down now and will badly need to sell, absolutely no excuses not to go and bring in several of their players who would unquestionably improve us. Starting with Diouf and Summerville—21 and 24 years old respectively.

Saying that, we're probably ten times more likely to get Soucek and Wilson instead.

Seeing as West Ham are down now and will badly need to sell, absolutely no excuses not to go and bring in several of their players who would unquestionably improve us. Starting with Diouf and Summerville—21 and 24 years old respectively.

Saying that, we're probably ten times more likely to get Soucek and Wilson instead.

If we signed Summerville where would we play him ??

 

[Neiler]

He's the coach. It's his responsibility to get the best out of the players he had the final say on when they signed.

Like Nathan Patterson, nah.

Wouldnt agree myself, If people are making the point that there has been loads invested in this squad and it’s being misused - im defo not there.

The squad has been chronically under invested in for half a decade in my opinion and badly in the years before that - one summer of par investment doesn’t change that or turn it into a crack elite squad - far from it. We don’t even have a complete full 11 in their natural positions, never mind a squad to be misused - the luxury of that.

 

[Toffeeslam]

He dragged him off at HT as well - how often does he make a HT sub?

Clearly doesn’t seem to fancy him, which begs the question who authorised the signing ?

£35-40 or whatever it was could have been used to plug gaps in the team like a decent fullback.

Also seen us linked with Stones which I sincerely hope does not happen due to his wages and injuries lately. If we’re in for a defender we should be after one with pace which we lack.

 

[Swagger]

Fair enough, but the prediction that the ‘top six’ will ‘sort themselves out’ is made every year, but I don’t think that’s true at all. Many of them have issues.

Tottenham are yet to make sure they will even be in the Premier League next season. Newcastle are bloody dross. Chelsea are cack as well. Liverpool have regressed.

It’s entirely possible to spend money and go backwards in the PL, and this represents a risk for Everton but also everyone else in the entire league.

Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford are hardly insurmountable. If we’d not bottled just a couple of results, we’d be in the same position as them right now. Bournemouth will have a different manager next season too.

Yes, the PL is difficult, but it’s really not very predictable, and it is in fact extremely competitive! The level of competition needs to be embraced, and shouldn’t be used as an excuse months before a ball has even been kicked by a new squad that has yet to be selected.

Fully agree.

Aside from Arsenal and Man City and maybe Manchester United, the rest is up for grabs.

Liverpool have a lot to sort out. Van Dyke has become a liability. Do they stick with him? Isak hasn't looked the same player following his injuries - does he recapture his best form? How do they incorporate Wirtz and not ruin the balance within the team. Mac Allister has not looked the same player and Gravenberch not as effective as the holding centre mid.

Tottenham will have likely finished 17th in back to back seasons. No guarantee they would suddenly finish about Everton. State of their goalkeepers, Romero and VDV likely to leave, injuries generally etc.

Gordon will likely leave Newcastle with Tonali and Livremento also strong possibilities to follow suit. Big money spent on three forwards amounting to over £200 million yet all have failed to date (Wissa, Elanga and Woltemade). How much money will they have to spend?

Aston Villa have limped over the line to reach the Champions League.

The likes of Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford will all have European football to contend with.

It's very annoying to have likely missed out on European football for next season but the opportunity will again be there next season.

 

[GoldenToffee]

If we signed Summerville where would we play him ??

Left wing. No need to sign an injured and overpaid Grealish.

 

[Drico]

Like Nathan Patterson, nah.

Wouldnt agree myself, If people are making the point that there has been loads invested in this squad and it’s being misused - im defo not there.

The squad has been chronically under invested in for half a decade in my opinion and badly in the years before that - one summer of par investment doesn’t change that or turn it into a crack elite squad - far from it. We don’t even have a complete full 11 in their natural positions, never mind a squad to be misused - the luxury of that.

Like Tyler Dibling. Like Adam Aznou. Like young Armstrong. Like Merlin Röhl who apparently has only emerged now after nine months in a coccoon. Like Carlos Alcaraz. The players HE had the final say on or brought back from loans.

And yes, I agree that there has been chronic underinvestment over the last five years. But what Moyes has signed off on has not been brought through or given enough minutes. He IS responsible for that.

When this club does accountability, we might start qualifying for Europe.

 

[Simon Buttle]

I don’t know what it is but I’ve got a horrible feeling he’ll spunk absolutely massive money on Jarrod Bowen if Wet Spam go down

Bowen has been talked about as a replacement for Gordon if he leaves Newcastle.