Summer transfer window.

[skucksy]

Don’t want Stones. Cracking player but he’s held together with sellotape and elastic bands at this point.

 

[cronullasharks]

Don’t want Stones. Cracking player but he’s held together with sellotape and elastic bands at this point.

Brittle elastic bands at that

 

[Neiler]

I think that's being a bit hard, if I'm honest mate.

What is definitely true though is that we've had all our key performers from the season suddenly go off the boil at the worst time.

Maybe it is mate and im always one for the benefit of the doubt, but i think we are at the point were we need to be ruthless with this group - these are professional footballers - there has been a huge opportunity in recent weeks for the CL (if 6th gets a place) and certainly Europe - we are odds off for that now. In truth they are group who the majority have gone from fighting relegation to competing for Europe and they have now failed at that - if we want to do it - many of those have proven they shouldn't be on that journey.

What have we learned - when a lot of these players needed to stand up and take that opportunity they didn't, they failed to manage games VS Norway, WHU, City and Palace which would have had us up were Bournemouth are.

If the club - wants to get to that space - many of these players have proven they aren't the ones to get us there in my opinion.

We need a team that isnt gong to blink at the most important part of the season, it makes anything else we achieved earlier in the season redundant.

Either quality wise they aren't good enough or psychologically - that's the learning in the last last 4-5 weeks in my opinion.

 

[Neiler]

He hasn't used his squad. So I have very little sympathy for this argument. He has tired out those he trusts and banished those he doesn't.

Moyes Out.

Actually think you are wrong here mate - think its clear whatever came of the bench havn't helped us see out our most recent results (bar Thierno), in fact probably hindered results over all.

 

[blueboy72]

He hasn't used his squad. So I have very little sympathy for this argument. He has tired out those he trusts and banished those he doesn't.

Moyes Out.

His "criticism" is mere credibility window dressing. It's soft talk with no consequences.

There is a disconnect in some minds between the performances of the players and that of the manager. They are linked, but some are in denial.

Was chatting to a mate yesterday and we had a heated debate, he loves Moyes and thinks he needs more time and money and said things like the football has been great this year WTF. I said you can give him 500mil to spend and a new 3yr deal and we won’t achieve anything, he has a glass ceiling he will never break, due to his philosophy and mentality

 

[MACCA75]

Hackney and Esmir would be good signings but Hackney feels nailed on to me to go to United due to Carrick and Esmir too much of a non-Moyes signing.

I don’t know about Hackney. Moyes said a while back he’d spoken to Carrick in the summer about a player (can well imagine it was Hackney). We then stumped up £20 million for Merlin, so maybe Carrick didn’t fancy him at Prem level.

 

[skucksy]

Brittle elastic bands at that

Like an off-cut of UPVC pipe you’ve had laying in the garden for 10 years.

 

[blueboy72]

Actually think you are wrong here mate - think its clear whatever came of the bench haven't helped us see out our most recent results, in fact probably hindered it.

Apart from swapping Barry for Beto or visa a versa on 70mins. Most of his subs get 10mins at best. Bringing Charlie on with 2 mins to go, what the hell was that all about

 

[Paul Rideout]

I don’t like how we’ve had a season of ignoring the promising youth we bought in during the last year, and how most of the early transfer links are to players over 30.

Doesn’t fill me with enthusiasm for the 2026/27 off season. Thank god there’s a World Cup to distract me.

 

[Toffeelover]

Only want Grealish if it is another loan, too old and too expensive for a 2/3 year long signing.

 

[Neiler]

Apart from swapping Barry for Beto or visa a versa on 70mins. Most of his subs get 10mins at best. Bringing Charlie on with 2 mins to go, what the hell was that all about

Mate - with all respect and good wishes, im so absolutely bored with the circular Moyes debate, there are to many toxic threads im purposely trying to avoid on it.

I get it loads like dont the manager blah, blah, blah, - can we keep this to the players and recruitment, there is a million other threads for the other thing.

 

[AndyP94]

It's difficult to work out where the priority is, we have so many average players that do ok...

Seems to RB,LB and up front, which it has been for some time.

Now it seems to CB aswell.

 

[neil999]

Seems to RB,LB and up front, which it has been for some time.

Now it seems to CB aswell.

Exactly and centre mid isn't great

 

[GrandOldTeam]

, he has a glass ceiling he will never break, due to his philosophy and mentality

For me, this is the crux of it.

After 3 consecutive years of midtable/closer to europe than relegation, I then struggle with the 'more time/more stability' - especially when it means give a manager 2 successive club transfer spend windows who has just had a terrible transfer window (it looks it so far anyway), and last week said 25% of transfers working is success.

He signed/recalled all of these Dibling (19), Aznou (19), Armstrong (18), Rohl (23), Alcaraz (22), George (19) and barely give them a kick - people will say they're just crap or make a myriad of excuses but the reality is, he signed off on them all and hasn't played them, and for what? Out of both cups to newly promoted team or relegated teams and the same amount of wins so far as Dyche's only full season.

The game has moved on, signing here/now players who'll maintain a benchmark for the manager will kill us and totally piss up the opportunity we had, after £500m, he left West Ham with the oldest squad in the league - 4 points above Dyche's Everton.

But that's Moyes, it's his MO - a big spend and 5+ years without starting a teenager at West Ham and even that was a nonsense match.



All that said, results/performance wise, I think Moyes has done what's expected this season - 3 games from messiah, 3 games from disaster - it's not surprising he has bang in the middle of both.

 

[Furey1878]

Big window ahead. Moyes is like 99 % staying imo, as much as he isn't using the squad as fully as many of us would like, there are some limitations there, O'Brien at right back, no proper right winger etc... I'm hoping we have a window that can at least take away the main excuses.