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Soldado? Negredo?

There hasn't been much mention of either of these two lately.. :(

tbh mate Soldado has only ever been jarg twitter and paper rumors, never one credible source linking him i dont thin, as for Negredo the bid for him in Jan was a bull**** smokescreen as the offer we made was way below what everyone knew he was worth(including Seville), it was just designed to keep the fans happy with the we tried angle.

Negredo with the year he just had, Seville being in Europe next year, plus the fact they just sold someone so the pressures off them financial to sell him for anything less than a top end price, I'd forget about either of them as even having the remotest chance
 
None of QPR, Reading, Wigan, Sunderland, Southampton, Stoke, Norwich, West Ham or WBA (Now that Lukaku's gone) have a better strike force. I would even say that although Michu has had a better season than Jelavic, our strikers combined are better than Swansea's strikers combined. Not that I wouldn't take Michu if he was available, but after him who exactly have they got? Their next highest scorer is De Guzman, a midfielder who takes pens, with 8. A similar argument could be made about Fulham (Berba; Petric) and Newcastle (Cisse; Cabaye).

In conclusion: we don't have the best strike force in the prem, but we do not have the worst by any stretch of the imagination. Put Felli back in CM and bring in a decent RM/RW, and I bet Jelavic and Anichebe would score 25 between them.


haha oh tree. WBA definitely have better strikers than us. i'd say most of the others do as well, especially if you base it on last seasons. QPR with Remy, cisse, johnson etc. do. even le fondre and pogrebnyak looked better than ours especially in goalscoring terms. Sunderland and Soton have marginally better even if the money the spent on theirs could have been better. Stoke's are a bit meh, but they have a few of them who round up as better.

WHU's are ordinary and i'd say are worse than our options as are swansea's seeing as michu isn't really a striker.

i don't think jelavic and anichebe can score 25 in a season if i'm being honest. a goalscorer like bent is definitely our number 1 priority
 
haha oh tree. WBA definitely have better strikers than us.

Long has scored 19 goals in 70 appearances for WBA, and 73 from 273 in his career; Odemwingie has 31 in 90 at WBA and 86 from 297 in total. So in a goals-to-games ratio Jelavic, with 19 from 59 for us and 94 from 216 in total, is streets ahead. granted, Long and Odemwingie are better than Anichebe by some margin, but given their ages I'd only take Long as a replacement for Anichebe - Odemwingie is basically finished.

i'd say most of the others do as well, especially if you base it on last seasons.

But I wouldn't base it solely on one season. I've already made that clear by pointing out Jelavic was awesome in the half-season after he first arrived: 11 goals in 16 games had everyone drooling like Pavlov's dog, and it's not as if they were all simply luck

QPR with Remy, cisse, johnson etc. do. even le fondre and pogrebnyak looked better than ours especially in goalscoring terms.

Remy: 6 in 14 for QPR.... 9 in 35 if you include his Marseille stats. 67 from 203 in his career.
Cisse: 4 in the whole season. BBC website link to his career stats isn"t working.
Johnson: Presuming you mean our old chap, he didn't score at all this season. 146 in 455 for the career though.
Le Fondre: 14 from 37 this season. 144 from 360 career - you may have a point with this guy. Maybe.
Pogrebnyak: 8 in 32 this season (identical to Anichebe); 64 in 191 career.

So all those, only Le Fondre has better than a 1 in 3 ratio.... Jelavic's career total of 94 in 216 is better than 1 in 3 as well. Everyone you've listed would be a step up from Anichebe at best.

Sunderland and Soton have marginally better even if the money the spent on theirs could have been better. Stoke's are a bit meh, but they have a few of them who round up as better.

Lambert: 15 from 38; 219 from 581 - marginally better than Jelavic, but he takes pens and free kicks - Jela doesn't.
Rordriguez: 9 from 37; 54 from 183 - better than Anichebe, arguably, but nowhere near Jelavic.

Fletcher: 11 from 31 this year; 99 from 324 in total - slightly better this year, but overall not as good as Jelavic.
Graham: 7 from 36 (split between Swansea and Sunderland); 107 from 337 for the career. Marginally better than Jelavic this year (arguably), but not even close overall.

Can I be bothered to pull up the stats for Crouch, Jones and Walters. A brief glimpse shows you that Walters had a better season than Jela this year, but overall he's no better than Anichebe. Jelavic over the career eclipses all three of them.

WHU's are ordinary and i'd say are worse than our options as are swansea's seeing as michu isn't really a striker.

i don't think jelavic and anichebe can score 25 in a season if i'm being honest. a goalscorer like bent is definitely our number 1 priority

Agree re West Ham and Swansea. With a better midfield providing more chances, Jelavic and Anichebe would score more. 15 from one and 10 from the other is easily achievable. The stats show that Jelavic had the off year from hell this year by his own standards and even after that he still averages a goal every 2.33 games. EVERY alternative you've mentioned averages out at a goal every three games AT BEST, with the exception of Le Fondre who averages out at a goal every 2.5 games.

Bent's ratio of 178 in 427 is interesting. Averages out at 2.39... but he's 30 already and this season he only got 6 from 23. If the price was right he might be worth considering, but he's really only a stopgap isn't he? I can't see him having more than two years left in the tank.
 
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Tbh Michu shows why a team doesn't need a goalscoring forward. Danny Graham provided all the cover he need to score from midfield before Sunderland needed him as Fletcher replacement.

Or bent pulling space for Cahill. Oh wait people wanted the one named Darren...
 
I just don't rate Bent, I wouldn't want him here & I expect him to go to some no mark premiership club for quite cheap.

There's very little I'd like from this country striker wise and I'd prefer to sell Fellaini and virtually spend the lot on something special from abroad. A striker is a must and I wouldn't be bothered if that's ll we brought in.

If forced to buy British, the Scottish lad from Sunderland would be the one I'd want if we could get him for less than what they paid.
 
I just don't rate Bent, I wouldn't want him here & I expect him to go to some no mark premiership club for quite cheap.

There's very little I'd like from this country striker wise and I'd prefer to sell Fellaini and virtually spend the lot on something special from abroad. A striker is a must and I wouldn't be bothered if that's ll we brought in.

If forced to buy British, the Scottish lad from Sunderland would be the one I'd want if we could get him for less than what they paid.

Too many people looking at this season only as the basis for their opinions. Fletcher has scored 99 goals in 324 club games - Jelavic has 94 in 216. If you're looking to replace Anichebe, fair enough... but Fletcher is not as good as Jelavic. Le Fondre from Reading has more promise than Fletcher and would be cheaper.

As for "I'd sell Fellaini, spend all the money on one striker and be happy with that".... madness. One serious injury, or one arrest, or one Juan Sebastian Veron and all that investment is wasted. And you didn't replace Felli, or bolster the squad.

Our lack of funds means we HAVE to spread the risk when we invest what little we have. Our small squad HAS to get bigger if we are going to challenge for anything.
 
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