sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
lol
Steven Pienaar
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For someone to suggest he is their fav player ever, says how utterly 'meh' we have been for a long time, that depresses me.
sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
But he was a very very good player, easily one of the best we've had in decades along with the likes of arteta, baines and kanchelskis
Kanchelskis apart, all 3 of them are not exactly terrifying names. We used to finish 5th/6th/7th with them... = meh.
sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
It's what the clubs been for decades, and in that time they've been our best players.
Baines and piennar partnership on their day though would've got in any team in the league. They were brilliant
It was a good partnership, but I think you are over-rating them and us.
Im a little more ambitious than celebrating 5th/6th/7th, and raving about decent players.
As good as Baines is to us and some Blues, he has been utterly average for England at best, and THATS what the rest of the world see.
Whistlin' Dixie
Player Valuation: £50m
This 1,000,000% (Apart from the 'desperate' bit - more to do with moylez not having a clue about a replacement RE: Pistone, Stubbs, Jeffers etc - all brought back by him)
Ungateful wee shoite, moylez rescued him from dortmund, and then he wanted parity with Arteta as top earner, wasn't getting it (Because he wasn't worth it) so sodded off to spurs (After he thought Chelsea wanted him as well lol ).
Couldn't get a game for them, then gave it the spiel (For those what fell for it) about being desperate to 'come home'. Played his best in that loan period, got his contract, and you know the rest...
The Baines /Pienaar partnership was 80% Baines; proof of the pudding can be found in Baines' goal return, which was at it's highest during the time pienaar was at spurs.
I'd say he shafted us, but moylez let him do so. They're welcome to each other AFAIC.
sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
Think you need to step back to reality, we've been a mid table side for a good decade or so and relegation fodder for the decade before that.
And I'm not overrating the partnership at all, they were widely regarded as the best left side for a while and pretty much 90% of our play went through them, they carried us at times
sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
lolThis 1,000,000% (Apart from the 'desperate' bit - more to do with moylez not having a clue about a replacement RE: Pistone, Stubbs, Jeffers etc - all brought back by him)
Ungateful wee shoite, moylez rescued him from dortmund, and then he wanted parity with Arteta as top earner, wasn't getting it (Because he wasn't worth it) so sodded off to spurs (After he thought Chelsea wanted him as well lol ).
Couldn't get a game for them, then gave it the spiel (For those what fell for it) about being desperate to 'come home'. Played his best in that loan period, got his contract, and you know the rest...
The Baines /Pienaar partnership was 80% Baines; proof of the pudding can be found in Baines' goal return, which was at it's highest during the time pienaar was at spurs.
I'd say he shafted us, but moylez let him do so. They're welcome to each other AFAIC.
Bitter much.
He was a far more important player to us than arteta was and quite rightly deserved parity.
And baines being most of the partnership, yeah all right then. Just look at Baines both attaching wise and defensively when he doesn't have piennar with him, he's an absolute shadow of the player
whoopee doo, they carried us to the greatness of 7th, get them in the hall of fame.
Im aware where we are and have been, and its not good enough, so I wont be lauding these players.
sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
So people aren't allowed to say any player over the past 30 years was any good?
No ones comparing them to the greats of the 80s and before. But compared to what we've seen over the past 3 decades they're the best of the bunch
Whistlin' Dixie
Player Valuation: £50m
Not really - I warned people what would come of it at the time, and I was proven right. Seems some just see what they want to. Hats off to him for working his ticket, like. But imo he had us over.
No, he just wasn't, and never did. I seen more half arsed performances from him than I did Arteta - who brought (And always would have) a lot bigger fee than pienaar would've ever done.
Really? They were known as the best LHS partnership for the attacking prowess. Baines scored something like 7 goals in the few months pienaar was away. (Dunno how many he set up). Pienaar couldn't hit a shot with any venom. I've seen 14 year old kids with a harder shot than him. All's he was good at was them 90 degree balls - and that's when they came off.
Well, that, and throwing his arms up to the sky when he went to ground every bleedin' time, instead of getting up & trying to retrieve the ball.
No mate. Pienaar wasn't all that.
This baffles me as well
The problem over the last couple of decades isn't that we didn't have good players, but more that we didn't have ENOUGH of them
If we'd had a 23 man squad of players at Pienaars level When he was at his peak, we'd've won things
It's not his fault we didn't have enough money to have decent squad depth
sageyefc
Player Valuation: £90m
Had us over? All he wanted was parity with our other two big earners which was perfectly acceptable, we took the piss and he rightly moved on. There's no such thing as loyalty when money's involved, chuck enough at Barkley and he'd be out the door first thing.
They were hands down the best Lhs at the time, didn't matter how he hit shots, he was vital to how we played and main job was creativity rather than goals.
How many of them Baines goals were free kicks and penalties?
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