Should Moyes be in charge for the last two games?

[electricblue]

The overwhelming majority are quite happy, and most, enthusiastic, about giving Moyes a good send off and thank you, but not from the dug out, he could do it from the directors box, next to Bill. Your twisting of sentiments does not stand up to scrutiny. The world will see us as another victim of the power of money in the game. The responses by the club to losing it's manager have included shock, bewilderment, despair, sadness, all these coming from the chairman. Now, either he is suffering from all those emotional conditions or acting, either way it's another poor performance. That his mind is that clouded and he cannot think because he needs a contingency, quick, to cover himself, has allowed events to dictate what perception there is of the club as an institution for the remainder of the season. Sunday will not be about Everton appreciating Moyes, whatever happens, it is about him leaving to for another club he agreed to join this week, he will be tagged onto the story about Ferguson, while Everton FC play the waiters at the party. If some supporters are angry at that portrayal the have every right to be. "wow, if I do really well there, I will get noticed. It's a tough job, but I'm good enough to do it" from a google by a manager, really, merit etc? honestly?, sorry that is absolute bollocks, and seriously, from one blue to another, I genuinely feel for this club if you cannot see it, and promise that when you finally do, it will all be too late. Genuinely no offence intended, but yours is a different Everton to mine and that is Bill Kenwright's legacy.

Mate, I DO see it. I recognize along with most Everton fans that in this media-driven age Sunday will be all about David Moyes and not so much about Everton FC. But it is more dignified to show him the appreciation he deserves for his work here over a long period than to throw a hissy fit about our club EFC not being the centre of attention on the day.

I have been following us since Bally was dominating our midfield. I don't know what age you are but for you to suggest that people with a similar viewpoint to mine are a product of "Bill Kenwright's legacy" is beyond the pale. We KNOW the high standards expected a from this club, but just because we live in real world of EFC 2013 doesn't mean that we "cannot see it", as you put it. You are effectively laying the blame for our current position on your fellow supporters instead of the board who are the people responsible.

You seem to think that people with your viewpoint have a monopoly on feeling the pain of us playing second fiddle to United over this whole business. Well you don't. It's the world that we live in today. Get used to it until we find the owners to take us back to where we belong.

In 9 days time Moyes will be part of the history of Everton. Then we can (hopefully) look forward to the next chapter in our long history. In the meantime show some respect for the name of Everton FC.

COYB

 

[hullefc]

Moyes is the manager and should be in the dug out for the last 2 games. Obviously, that makes me 'small time' and not a 'real supporter' and 'not passionate' about Everton. What a joke. What an absolute small minded imbecilic 'I'm a better Evertonian than you' oddball reasoning.

We as a club have utmost respect from most football supporters in the country and so does Davey Moyes.

So let the club look small time and bitter by sacking him. That will show the world that 'we are Everton and we have great passion and no one messes with us'. It will definitely 'fire' the players up will that. Can picture it now at Finch Farm, 'Kenwright has sacked Moyes, get in there 'no one messes with Everton, we have pride, we have power, we are bad arsed mother that takes no crap off nobody'.

And the rest of the football world would look on in opened mouthed disbelief.

 

[blueblue]

I have seen a lot of contributions in this thread and nothing I have seen has changed my mind.David Moyes should not be in the Everton dugout on Sunday.

 

[DanEFC92]

Moyes is the manager and should be in the dug out for the last 2 games. Obviously, that makes me 'small time' and not a 'real supporter' and 'not passionate' about Everton. What a joke. What an absolute small minded imbecilic 'I'm a better Evertonian than you' oddball reasoning.

We as a club have utmost respect from most football supporters in the country and so does Davey Moyes.

So let the club look small time and bitter by sacking him. That will show the world that 'we are Everton and we have great passion and no one messes with us'. It will definitely 'fire' the players up will that. Can picture it now at Finch Farm, 'Kenwright has sacked Moyes, get in there 'no one messes with Everton, we have pride, we have power, we are bad arsed mother that takes no crap off nobody'.

And the rest of the football world would look on in opened mouthed disbelief.

Of Manchester United.

 

[Dell Boy]

It is unprecedented for a reason. This shouldn't be about falling out with fellow fans.

But not one of those supporting the idea of Man Utd's new manager David Moyes running our team for the next two matches - have acknowledged it being unprecedented.

Unprecedented in business. Unprecedented in football.

That's why it is so hard for many of us.

 

[hullefc]

Of Manchester United.

As of the First of July.

 

[fozzy]

majicjaun should defo post more!!!

i'd rep fella but its gone taken away!

 

[Dell Boy]

Moyes has got nothing to gain though by staying

That's a good point and one I largely agree with. It doesn't make the decision right but it's a good point.

 

[McBain]

There's a few people in here seem to have no idea.

Hullefc, electricblue, mawders, ihaters...even ToffeeDan

You're not getting it. We're Everton. Not David Moyes FC.

We will pay the utmost respect to Moyes, but he's a High Profile football Manager who must encompass everything about the Club. But where will that get us over the next six weeks?

So his contract will run for until July 1 or something? So are we looking for a replacement now or from July 1? And how long will that take? And in the mean-time, how can any of the moves Moyes has planned come about now?

And when he takes our two best players with him? What then? It's typical, we'll be behind from the start yet again.

Man United have their next Manager already thinking about what his new team will be like, who to keep, who to move on. It's only Ferguson made them what they are. We should be looking out for Number One, not some highly paid Caretaker.

It's a joke and should be the straw that breaks Kenwrights back.

 

[Dell Boy]

There's a few people in here seem to have no idea.

Hullefc, electricblue, mawders, ihaters...even ToffeeDan

You're not getting it. We're Everton. Not David Moyes FC.

We will pay the utmost respect to Moyes, but he's a High Profile football Manager who must encompass everything about the Club. But where will that get us over the next six weeks?

So his contract will run for until July 1 or something? So are we looking for a replacement now or from July 1? And how long will that take? And in the mean-time, how can any of the moves Moyes has planned come about now?

And when he takes our two best players with him? What then? It's typical, we'll be behind from the start yet again.

Man United have their next Manager already thinking about what his new team will be like, who to keep, who to move on. It's only Ferguson made them what they are. We should be looking out for Number One, not some highly paid Caretaker.

It's a joke and should be the straw that breaks Kenwrights back.

Brilliant post.

 

[electricblue]

There's a few people in here seem to have no idea.

Hullefc, electricblue, mawders, ihaters...even ToffeeDan

You're not getting it. We're Everton. Not David Moyes FC.

We will pay the utmost respect to Moyes, but he's a High Profile football Manager who must encompass everything about the Club. But where will that get us over the next six weeks?

So his contract will run for until July 1 or something? So are we looking for a replacement now or from July 1? And how long will that take? And in the mean-time, how can any of the moves Moyes has planned come about now?

And when he takes our two best players with him? What then? It's typical, we'll be behind from the start yet again.

Man United have their next Manager already thinking about what his new team will be like, who to keep, who to move on. It's only Ferguson made them what they are. We should be looking out for Number One, not some highly paid Caretaker.

It's a joke and should be the straw that breaks Kenwrights back.

Started badly then improved.

Yes, we get your point mate.

But stop telling your fellow supporters that they have 'no idea' just because they have a different point of view.

It's f**king shameful.

 

[McBain]

Started badly then improved.

Yes, we get your point mate.

But stop telling your fellow supporters that they have 'no idea' just because they have a different point of view.

It's f**king shameful.

You have no idea Pal, nothing personal, but it's this attitude got us feeder club status in the first place.

 

[Ihaters]

Honouring a contract? Are you serious? I guarentee in his contract it explicitly prohibits colluding with a rival team.

Contracts in football are a joke anyway but they are a conduit to transfer fees and compensation. Moyes denied us that much needed cash for his own agenda. Moyes had/has Kenwright where he wants him. Even under contract Bill would never stop Moyes leaving. Moyes has played the game. At our expense.

But look I have nothing really negative for Moyes. Kenwright allowed Moyes to play the contract game. Moyes should really have gone last summmer after 10 great years but I'd be happy to say thanks and goodbye under the right circumstances.

The point is this idea of continue to manage one club after agreeing a deal with another is unprecedented for a good reason. There are NO examples of a manager doing this for a rival team.

In general business it would be unacceptable for a key executive. In the passionate world of football it is insulting to the fan base.

This is about the principle of Everton's integrity and pride. Right now I have Kenwright and Moyes to blame in equal measure but the more I think about it - Moyes is looking after himself. It's Kenwright's job to safeguard Everton.

How much exactly do you think 2 weeks of contract would be to us? Or do you think he should of signed his contract so Manchester United would give us money... or of course more likely gone elsewhere for their replacement?

 

[Ihaters]

You have no idea Pal, nothing personal, but it's this attitude got us feeder club status in the first place.

It really isn't, its a lack of funds and s**t ownership. The EB's opinion of fans slating fellow blues had nothing to do with it.

 

[electricblue]

You have no idea Pal, nothing personal, but it's this attitude got us feeder club status in the first place.

I asked you to stop telling your fellow supporters condescendingly that they have 'no idea' , and you respond with that.

Yeah right. I've been supporting Everton since 1968 and you tell me that I have 'no idea' and that my attitude is responsible for us becoming a 'feeder club'.

[Poor language removed] off you patronising ****.

If this is what our 'support' has become I'm outta here.