Should Moyes be in charge for the last two games?

[Khalekan]

I wonder if this Ihaters bloke has called the Samaritans Helpline?

He is in deep denial and seems totally incapable of coping with life without Moyes.

Most odd.

 

[harris78]

That's only relevent if there is something to be gained by instant dismissal. I don't think he's going to learn much he doesn't know about Everton to take to United in the next two days.
Most employees have to give notice, they get a new job, then wait a week, month, whatever before leaving.

How about tapping up players? Negativity around the stadium on match days from fans, as can be seen through the numerous threads. Constant camera crews etc around Goodison wanting to get every morsel of detail about Moyes and another PL club. General disruption to the plans of our club. I would say there are numerous reasons why Moyes should be on garden leave at this present time. Yes I do believe Moyes will be professional till the end but to say this has no impact on our club for the remainder of the season, I don't buy it.

 

[magicjuan]

All top 5 clubs have rebranded themselves but to positive effect. EFC took notice of misguided luddite fans who wanted no change and bring back terraces etc. That was a bad move and the club went into downward spiral. Detractors will say, "but Everton for the past 10 years have been nipping on the heels of the top 4". How they did was a miracle, that is why Moyes was offered the Man U job with no other contenders even looked at. If Everton want continuity, longevity and loyalty then Benitez is the man. He never left his home in West Kirby and his family stayed there all along. He is wedded to the area. He understands the people. He is also a successful manager wining CLs etc. His name should be on the voting list. I couldn't care if he was at the red ****e at one time. The club is desperate and needs at time to make desperate decisions.

Have I fallen for an online scam? If not that is the most patent pile of tosh I've seen written on the whole of the tinterwebs, in the face of some serious competition too. Doesn't even make sense....

 

[magicjuan]

How about tapping up players? Negativity around the stadium on match days from fans, as can be seen through the numerous threads. Constant camera crews etc around Goodison wanting to get every morsel of detail about Moyes and another PL club. General disruption to the plans of our club. I would say there are numerous reasons why Moyes should be on garden leave at this present time. Yes I do believe Moyes will be professional till the end but to say this has no impact on our club for the remainder of the season, I don't buy it.

All the interest from the media circus will be about Moyes and will portray Everton as some lucky Cinderella type who didn't actually get to the ball but were allowed to hold a ticket to it, for 5 minutes, and we'll be letting them. For shame.

 

[trickyblue66]

Just heard Moyes' press conference and I'm very angry.

1. Moyes is a liar and he must think we're effing stupid to believe that a) he didn't know of United's interest before this week and b) that he was planning to sign a new contract.

United do not do anything without great thought and preparation. To think that they just decided this week that Fergie was to go and that Moyes should succeed him and that this all happened in the space of two days is ludicrous. Also I do not believe that Moyes was planning to sign a new deal. He says that he was preparing for next season but as if he wouldn't be anyway; that's just being professional. Bull**** Bull**** Bull****.

2) Moyes says he will do whatever he can to help Everton. Hahaha. Will this include promising not to come after our prize assets and pay as little as possible for them come the 1st of July? No probably not. Did it include at least signing a new deal so that if United came calling we would get a decent amount of compensation. No to that as well!!

Personally I've lost all respect for a man who I had great affection for. The **** could hardly keep himself from smirking at the press conference. He's lied to us all for at least the last two months and I wouldn't have him anywhere near the ground or players from now on. To be honest it didn't look at all right him sitting there at the press conference in an Everton top.

Good riddance and bring on the new man. To think we used to say In Moyes We Trust.

 

[pfim]

Again, it should be a clean break. He did a job and was paid a wage. Everton owe him nothing but the remaining wages on his contract and a bit of thanks. It's time to move on.

 

[Inner-city]

Apologies, I thought from a previous post you were serious. My mistake. Do you not think the connection from Lime Street to James street could have been thought of, or the development of Brunswick? To think Kings Dock was a joke in the context you put it is astounding, to highlight railway deficiencies is baffling, to omit the missed opportunity from the board due to petty squabbles is, frightening.

Having a large stadium in the expanded city centre was madness for the city overall. There are plenty of good sites with good rail connections and near main trunk roads/motorways. Kings Dock stadium was also too small. Everything about it stunk. The daft Council were the drivers not EFC. But nevertheless EFC never took advantage of the gift. Maybe underneath they knew the place was too small and they wanted better - if so they were right. James St station is too small to cope with large stadium. You need a station that handles 20,000 per hour. Those lifts are just not big enough and too few and the capacity too small. OK, new lifts could have been installed at the far end of the platforms emerging on the river front to cope. But the station is very DEEP, so deep escalators could not get down there, so expensive to built the new entrance - it would be good for the new cruise liner terminal though. The Wapping rail tunnel to Edge Hill emerges at the Kings Dock where a multi platform station could be built, but the DFT was not going spend on Liverpool as all was being poured into London and Manchester's trollycars. Road access to KD is dire as well. An edge of city stadium site it the one to go for to ensure large gates and future prosperity. The club has missed out big time - and also Liverpool FC. Their ground is inadequate for such a club and they demise is also related to their small inadequate stadium. It is no co-incidence that both Manchester clubs have outstripped the Liverpool clubs.

 

[magicjuan]

Having a large stadium in the expanded city centre was madness for the city overall. There are plenty of good sites with good rail connections and near main trunk roads/motorways. Kings Dock stadium was also too small. Everything about it stunk. The daft Council were the drivers not EFC. But nevertheless EFC never took advantage of the gift. Maybe underneath they knew the place was too small and they wanted better - if so they were right. James St station is too small to cope with large stadium. You need a station that handles 20,000 per hour. Those lifts are just not big enough and too few and the capacity too small. OK, new lifts could have been installed at the far end of the platforms emerging on the river front to cope. But the station is very DEEP, so deep escalators could not get down there, so expensive to built the new entrance - it would be good for the new cruise liner terminal though. The Wapping rail tunnel to Edge Hill emerges at the Kings Dock where a multi platform station could be built, but the DFT was not going spend on Liverpool as all was being poured into London and Manchester's trollycars. Road access to KD is dire as well. An edge of city stadium site it the one to go for to ensure large gates and future prosperity. The club has missed out big time - and also Liverpool FC. Their ground is inadequate for such a club and they demise is also related to their small inadequate stadium. It is no co-incidence that both Manchester clubs have outstripped the Liverpool clubs.

Strange that everywhere else in the world they stopped building out of town stadiums as attendances were dropping, especially the states, and, funnily enough they started to build them, erm, in city centres....where there's a will eh?

 

[Ihaters]

How about tapping up players? Negativity around the stadium on match days from fans, as can be seen through the numerous threads. Constant camera crews etc around Goodison wanting to get every morsel of detail about Moyes and another PL club. General disruption to the plans of our club. I would say there are numerous reasons why Moyes should be on garden leave at this present time. Yes I do believe Moyes will be professional till the end but to say this has no impact on our club for the remainder of the season, I don't buy it.

How about tapping up players?

He's at United mate, he doesn't need to..
Kenwright here is x amount of pounds if you sell me Leighton..
Okay
Baines would you like to come to United.. yes..
done.
Why would he possibly need to tap up any of our players?

Negativity around the stadium on match days from fans, as can be seen through the numerous threads

True this is new, hell they may even boo our team or a substitution.

General disruption to the plans of our club.

No, the opposite, the plans of our club = what Moyes wants at current. Now they need to think for themselves again, Moyes has given the board a couple of weeks to get their s**t together whilst he continues the work he's been doing for over a decade. The disruption is that he's leaving, not that he is seeing out his contract.

That Moyes is staying affords the club a little time to consider and to appoint a manager, gives Moyes time to talk to the new manager, perhaps go through various things, to write up any change over notes he may have, to leave instructions for the coaching staff etc, to say goodbyes and to finish on a high by winning the next couple of games.

 

[Sharpattack]

Just heard Moyes' press conference and I'm very angry.

1. Moyes is a liar and he must think we're effing stupid to believe that a) he didn't know of United's interest before this week and b) that he was planning to sign a new contract.

United do not do anything without great thought and preparation. To think that they just decided this week that Fergie was to go and that Moyes should succeed him and that this all happened in the space of two days is ludicrous. Also I do not believe that Moyes was planning to sign a new deal. He says that he was preparing for next season but as if he wouldn't be anyway; that's just being professional. Bull**** Bull**** Bull****.

2) Moyes says he will do whatever he can to help Everton. Hahaha. Will this include promising not to come after our prize assets and pay as little as possible for them come the 1st of July? No probably not. Did it include at least signing a new deal so that if United came calling we would get a decent amount of compensation. No to that as well!!

Personally I've lost all respect for a man who I had great affection for. The **** could hardly keep himself from smirking at the press conference. He's lied to us all for at least the last two months and I wouldn't have him anywhere near the ground or players from now on. To be honest it didn't look at all right him sitting there at the press conference in an Everton top.

Good riddance and bring on the new man. To think we used to say In Moyes We Trust.

What a stupid post.
1. He's not a liar. The board of Utd did not know their manager was going until he told them. They were obliged under Stock Market rules to disclose this fact. They then moved for Moyes as Ferguson told them he was the best option. Moyes would not have been approached prior to this. He may have speculated, just like the rest of us, but I doubt he knew more than that.
2. The notion that he not come after our "prize assets" is absurd. So he just leave it to the rest of the league to buy them? If he comes for them the board should seek the highest price and not be guided one way or the other as to the source of the bid.
I believe him when he said he would be preparing for next season. This opportunity arose and he grabbed it. Who wouldnt? He might lose Rooney in the transfer window and it won't cost him a thought as he could replace him with Lewandowski or Ronaldo. Last time he replaced him with Marcus Bent. Who wouldn't want that sort of moolah?
Moyes gave us 11 good years and saved this club from certain relegation. Without him we would have been the next Sheffield Wednesday.

 

[harris78]

All the interest from the media circus will be about Moyes and will portray Everton as some lucky Cinderella type who didn't actually get to the ball but were allowed to hold a ticket to it, for 5 minutes, and we'll be letting them. For shame.

Totally agree Magic. in his time here Moyes has continually said that 5 -7 is not good enough but today in the press conference, plucky little Everton are in a good position as we continually are around that 5 - 7th mark. Moyes would have Got proper angry and steely eyed with those remarks in previous press conferences, but his one he smiled and agreed with it.

 

[Inner-city]

Have I fallen for an online scam? If not that is the most patent pile of tosh I've seen written on the whole of the tinterwebs, in the face of some serious competition too. Doesn't even make sense....

What I wrote was very true. EFC are desperate and they may end up looking over their shoulders at relegation again and maybe drop out. I remember the days well. Awful. They need someone who keeps them in the top half. Benitez can do that. I have reservations over the others.

 

[pfim]

Assuming Moyes can do the impossible and get his focus 100% on this match, he will be a massive distraction for everyone else. It makes no sense.

 

[boris]

It is that which grates on me, the bend over and take it, forget the lube we're ok, attitude, be grateful, as an Evertonian I don't accept anyone is better than us and we should know our place, I'll accept more succesful clubs, we have to, but by allowing other competition to treat us like this gives them a huge psychological advantage that too many here take lying down.
It starts at the top and has trickled down for many years now. The identity of this club is being ripped apart and too many are helping it happen ffs.

Tremendous Post!!

 

[Ihaters]

What a stupid post.
1. He's not a liar. The board of Utd did not know their manager was going until he told them. They were obliged under Stock Market rules to disclose this fact. They then moved for Moyes as Ferguson told them he was the best option. Moyes would not have been approached prior to this. He may have speculated, just like the rest of us, but I doubt he knew more than that.
2. The notion that he not come after our "prize assets" is absurd. So he just leave it to the rest of the league to buy them? If he comes for them the board should seek the highest price and not be guided one way or the other as to the source of the bid.
I believe him when he said he would be preparing for next season. This opportunity arose and he grabbed it. Who wouldnt? He might lose Rooney in the transfer window and it won't cost him a thought as he could replace him with Lewandowski or Ronaldo. Last time he replaced him with Marcus Bent. Who wouldn't want that sort of moolah?
Moyes gave us 11 good years and saved this club from certain relegation. Without him we would have been the next Sheffield Wednesday.

We don't know that a different choice of manager would or wouldn't of kept us up. The rest I agree with though.