Should Hibbert be 2nd choice Right Back?

[Upskirt]

Absolutely not... if the last two matches are anything to go by.

He was properly destroyed by a player, playing out of position for a slightly above average La Liga side the other night.

 

[Jarek Pardej]

With all due respect he is awful.

Stones> Browning

Mayby Oviedo if he can play on a right side... and I suppose Besic can be a RB.

 

[Duncanmac]

Shouldnt even be in the squad, lucky that his career coincided with a period when the rest of Everton were gash. He would have been put on the scrap heap at the beginning of his career.
Seen better full backs in the amateur leagues

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Shouldnt even be in the squad, lucky that his career coincided with a period when the rest of Everton were gash. He would have been put on the scrap heap at the beginning of his career.
Seen better full backs in the amateur leagues

Bollocks

Absolute unbridled, unapologetic, unabashed, unforgiveable Bollocks

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Shouldnt even be in the squad, lucky that his career coincided with a period when the rest of Everton were gash. He would have been put on the scrap heap at the beginning of his career.
Seen better full backs in the amateur leagues

Mental post.

 

[malcson]

You think Hibbert is better than Johnson??! Hibbert has always been one of our weaker players. Now that our standard has improved and he's getting older and affected by injuries he stand out massively quality wise from the rest of the players at the club. Got nothing against him personally and I think his loyalty should be commended but he isn't good enough to play for us anymore IMO.

Yes, Johnson is so inconsistant and while better going forward than Hibbert he is more suspect than Hibbert in defence. I think when fit he is a great 'back up' right back. He was basically on a free when signing a new contract. Who could we sign at right back better than Hibbert for free or nominal fee? He has been hampered in the last couple of seasons with injury, prior to this he was actually keeping Coleman out of the squad - because Moyes was more conservative and Hibbert was more dependable defensively.

 

[blue4eva77]

Mental post.

You do have to ask yourself though whether Hibbert would get anywhere near the number of games he has played for the club, if he started his career now. I'm almost certain if he was in his early 20's, he would be shoved off on loan somewhere.

 

[Furey1878]

Sadly he sticks out like a sore thumb in a team that expects every player to be comfortable on the ball.

For the most part he'll do a job defensively, though. So as back up, I can live with it.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

You do have to ask yourself though whether Hibbert would get anywhere near the number of games he has played for the club, if he started his career now. I'm almost certain if he was in his early 20's, he would be shoved off on loan somewhere.

To many if's and but's thought that isn't it. Whats certain is that Hibbert has been the first choice rightback for a top 7 club in the most competitive league in the world for 10+ years. He's held his own in one of the best defences the league has had for the last 7-8 years, while we've continually been in the top 3 teams for least goals conceded. He's obviously been doing something right during that time, Coleman is a different player and offers us different options but it doesn't diminish Hibbert's qualities.

 

[blue4eva77]

To many if's and but's thought that isn't it. Whats certain is that Hibbert has been the first choice rightback for a top 7 club in the most competitive league in the world for 10+ years. He's held his own in one of the best defences the league has had for the last 7-8 years, while we've continually been in the top 3 teams for least goals conceded. He's obviously been doing something right during that time, Coleman is a different player and offers us different options but it doesn't diminish Hibbert's qualities.

That's very true and i don't think anyone is arguing what Hibbert has given us over the years.

The general question and why this thread is here, is basically can Hibbert still play at this level and what is required now. I personally don't think he is good enough now and like i've mentioned, had his career started now, he wouldn't of gone on to play 260 odd first team games. Not at this level mind and certainly not for a team that is looking to challenge. Football has changed and in particular, full backs.

Hibbert has done a job for us in the past, great lad and top Evertonian. This thread and the OP question ? He shouldn't be our back up.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

That's very true and i don't think anyone is arguing what Hibbert has given us over the years.

The general question and why this thread is here, is basically can Hibbert still play at this level and what is required now. I personally don't think he is good enough now and like i've mentioned, had his career started now, he wouldn't of gone on to play 260 odd first team games. Not at this level mind and certainly not for a team that is looking to challenge. Football has changed and in particular, full backs.

Hibbert has done a job for us in the past, great lad and top Evertonian. This thread and the OP question ? He shouldn't be our back up.

Well someone above said he should never have made it as a professional or something equally stupid and claimed there's better amateur footballers, which like I said is just plain stupid.

As for the OP if we had unlimited funds I'd imagine he'd have more competition for his role of understudy to Coleman, but we don't and Martinez has seen fit to hand him a 2 year deal. He's provide in the past he's an adaptable and a capable player so I'm okay with him sticking round as understudy. If a better option surfaces in the near future I'm sure Martinez will make the right decision on Hibbert and the role he plays.

 

[PhilM]

You do have to ask yourself though whether Hibbert would get anywhere near the number of games he has played for the club, if he started his career now. I'm almost certain if he was in his early 20's, he would be shoved off on loan somewhere.

Hindsight is a glorious thing, it really it is. However, in reality it offers nothing to the world apart from fueling pubesque conversations.

Would many golden footballers of previous generations make it in today's game if their physical characteristics, style of play and attitudes were exactly the same? By this I mean their previous physiques, diets, tendencies to smoke et al (the list is in endless). Arguably, no they wouldn't. Today's game is far removed from that of forty or thirty years ago. However, they did meet the criteria at the time and thus played. What am I rambling on about you may ask? Well exactly, it is as useless [Poor language removed] as saying Hibbo wouldn't make it now.

The fact is he did. He may not have been the world's greatest right back. He may get a nose bleed beyond the half way line. He may find crossing as difficult as licking his elbow. Yet, he has contributed over two-hudred-and-fifty appearances for this club as a solid, dedicated and overall effective right back. Whether he would make it now is irrelevant; people should focus their limited resources on more pressing issues.

 

[blue4eva77]

Well someone above said he should never have made it as a professional or something equally stupid and claimed there's better amateur footballers, which like I said is just plain stupid.

As for the OP if we had unlimited funds I'd imagine he'd have more competition for his role of understudy to Coleman, but we don't and Martinez has seen fit to hand him a 2 year deal. He's provide in the past he's an adaptable and a capable player so I'm okay with him sticking round as understudy. If a better option surfaces in the near future I'm sure Martinez will make the right decision on Hibbert and the role he plays.

Do you still think Hibbert is a Premier League footballer ? A footballer who can play at the highest level ? Would you be sound and have no worries about Hibbert playing in a key game if Coleman isn't available.

Given that his best days are well behind him, the style of football that our current manager has installed here and the fact that full backs play a more important role than ever before, i would be more inclined to play a younger (albeit inexperienced) full back who has the newer style in his locker.

Asking Hibbert to change his style, would surely be like asking Howard to play up front.

 

[blue4eva77]

Hindsight is a glorious thing, it really it is. However, in reality it offers nothing to the world apart from fueling pubesque conversations.

Would many golden footballers of previous generations make it in today's game if their physical characteristics, style of play and attitudes were exactly the same? By this I mean their previous physiques, diets, tendencies to smoke et al (the list is in endless). Arguably, no they wouldn't. Today's game is far removed from that of forty or thirty years ago. However, they did meet the criteria at the time and thus played. What am I rambling on about you may ask? Well exactly, it is as useless [Poor language removed] as saying Hibbo wouldn't make it now.

The fact is he did. He may not have been the world's greatest right back. He may get a nose bleed beyond the half way line. He may find crossing as difficult as licking his elbow. Yet, he has contributed over two-hudred-and-fifty appearances for this club as a solid, dedicated and overall effective right back. Whether he would make it now is irrelevant; people should focus their limited resources on more pressing issues.

Nice post, i get what you're saying.

However........

Do you think he is good enough to be our back up right back now ? Are you fine with him starting at Leicester ?

 

[ImKoneKoneKoneKone]

Hes done now! dont know why we offered a two year deal instead of a player/coach deal?
Browning would be a good choice, but maybe Stones is the best option there