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Change is good, but not just for changes sake.

I like Moyes, and hope he doesn't leave.

I'd love the board to be cleared out though, I really can't see any good they are doing. Pure caretakers with no forward vision.
 

people also seem to forget that DM has broken our transfer record twice(maybe 3 was AJ a record too) too. not bad for a man who's never had any dollar to spend.
Yeah sold Johnson for a profit and could sell fell for £10 million plus profit only flop was Beattie. He has to sell to buy and even then does not always get to keep the funds raised. Are you saying kenwright has backed moyes in the market.
 
Change is good, but not just for changes sake.

I like Moyes, and hope he doesn't leave.

I'd love the board to be cleared out though, I really can't see any good they are doing. Pure caretakers with no forward vision.

This is my opinion to.
 
Don't you think our best starting eleven should make us a top 4 team though mate, irrespective of how much money is available? It's a great team on paper.

It still could happen, we only had a few months with Jelavic and Pienaar and were looking a top 4 side, imagine a whole season?
 
I'd love to see the anti Moyes brigade become quiet if he did go, when the likes of Fellaini, Baines, Heightinga all depart and we appoint some relatively unknown manager from the lower leagues as his replacement.

Moyes, for all his faults, and I agree he does have a few, gets the club performing consistently above where our finances dictate we should finish.

All these "so called" better managers at big clubs have tons of money to throw around. Alex Ferguson would struggle to do the job Moyes has done if he was at Everton. Shame a few of you can't seem to get that in to your heads.

I'm assuming a few of you are younger and didn't live through the 90's when we had so many scrapes with relegation and the football was even more dire to watch with the likes of Walter Smith at the helm. Then we had Roy Walker who took over after having taken Norwich in to Europe and almost got us relegated playing attractive football.

I'm not saying it's impossible to find a manager who could get us playing better football and achieve the same level of success but if you look at club finances\league positions over the years it proves that Moyes outperforms nearly all managers in relation to how much money he has to spend.

I've never seen one of you suggest a viable alternative manager who would be likely to come to the club either. It's easy to say there are great young managers out there, there's bound to be, same as there's great young strikers that don't cost too much, just it's a lot easier to say there are than it is to actually find them and I'm assuming you anti Moyes\Kenwright fans are going to put your trust in Kenwright to pull another rabbit out of the hat?

If he does go, expect there to be a huge exodus from our team. Wether you like Moyes or not the players do and I think we'll see a lot of players leave if he does take the Spurs job.

I'd be careful what you wish for.
 

Don't you think our best starting eleven should make us a top 4 team though mate, irrespective of how much money is available? It's a great team on paper.

mate if we could play your first 11 every possibly, but that is impossible it's a squad game, with injuries, suspensions etc etc. without financial backing from the board, I think we are aking for the impossible from moyes.
 
It still could happen, we only had a few months with Jelavic and Pienaar and were looking a top 4 side, imagine a whole season?

We've had Pienaar before though, and substitute Jelavic for an inform Yakubu a couple of years ago, with pretty much the same team as now, and we still couldn't hit those heights.
 
mate if we could play your first 11 every possibly, but that is impossible it's a squad game, with injuries, suspensions etc etc. without financial backing from the board, I think we are aking for the impossible from moyes.

Even our bench isn't the worst, but I accept your point, I don't think he's playing the style of footy we're capable of but I know what you're saying.
 
I'm not scared of losing Moyes because I think he's the best manager in the world. I'm scared because I can't see our financial situation attracting a decent replacement. Moyes' talent is for spotting potential and buying cheap (then selling on at a healthy profit)- IMO this has kept us afloat these past 10 years. The rest of the top ten Prem clubs don't have to bother with this as they've all got nice amounts of cash to play with. I can't imagine many managers seeing the everton job as a good career move whilst there's this lack of investment in the club.
 
I'd love to see the anti Moyes brigade become quiet if he did go, when the likes of Fellaini, Baines, Heightinga all depart and we appoint some relatively unknown manager from the lower leagues as his replacement.

Moyes, for all his faults, and I agree he does have a few, gets the club performing consistently above where our finances dictate we should finish.

All these "so called" better managers at big clubs have tons of money to throw around. Alex Ferguson would struggle to do the job Moyes has done if he was at Everton. Shame a few of you can't seem to get that in to your heads.

I'm assuming a few of you are younger and didn't live through the 90's when we had so many scrapes with relegation and the football was even more dire to watch with the likes of Walter Smith at the helm. Then we had Roy Walker who took over after having taken Norwich in to Europe and almost got us relegated playing attractive football.

I'm not saying it's impossible to find a manager who could get us playing better football and achieve the same level of success but if you look at club finances\league positions over the years it proves that Moyes outperforms nearly all managers in relation to how much money he has to spend.

I've never seen one of you suggest a viable alternative manager who would be likely to come to the club either. It's easy to say there are great young managers out there, there's bound to be, same as there's great young strikers that don't cost too much, just it's a lot easier to say there are than it is to actually find them and I'm assuming you anti Moyes\Kenwright fans are going to put your trust in Kenwright to pull another rabbit out of the hat?

If he does go, expect there to be a huge exodus from our team. Wether you like Moyes or not the players do and I think we'll see a lot of players leave if he does take the Spurs job.

I'd be careful what you wish for.
I think this is a valid point all the players speak very highly of moyes which surely suggests something.
 

I'm all for giving young managers a chance, we wouldn't have got DM in the first place if BK hadn't taken a gamble on him so why not try a fresh face again???

The problem on here is most of you DM lovers keep mentioning the likes of coyle, martinez etc when in reality there is a whole world of managers to choose from some maybe not even known to us a la Wenger that is not too say nobody cannot do the job. Someone like solskjaer for instance. Laudrup has just gone to swansea these managers are out there just need to be given an opportunity.

Im not being funny mate genuinely seeking your opinion, would you be happy if Davey was let go this week and by the end of next Laudrup or Solskjaer was the manager.
 
I'd love to see the anti Moyes brigade become quiet if he did go, when the likes of Fellaini, Baines, Heightinga all depart and we appoint some relatively unknown manager from the lower leagues as his replacement.

Moyes, for all his faults, and I agree he does have a few, gets the club performing consistently above where our finances dictate we should finish.

All these "so called" better managers at big clubs have tons of money to throw around. Alex Ferguson would struggle to do the job Moyes has done if he was at Everton. Shame a few of you can't seem to get that in to your heads.

I'm assuming a few of you are younger and didn't live through the 90's when we had so many scrapes with relegation and the football was even more dire to watch with the likes of Walter Smith at the helm. Then we had Roy Walker who took over after having taken Norwich in to Europe and almost got us relegated playing attractive football.


I'm not saying it's impossible to find a manager who could get us playing better football and achieve the same level of success but if you look at club finances\league positions over the years it proves that Moyes outperforms nearly all managers in relation to how much money he has to spend.

I've never seen one of you suggest a viable alternative manager who would be likely to come to the club either. It's easy to say there are great young managers out there, there's bound to be, same as there's great young strikers that don't cost too much, just it's a lot easier to say there are than it is to actually find them and I'm assuming you anti Moyes\Kenwright fans are going to put your trust in Kenwright to pull another rabbit out of the hat?

If he does go, expect there to be a huge exodus from our team. Wether you like Moyes or not the players do and I think we'll see a lot of players leave if he does take the Spurs job.

I'd be careful what you wish for.

You assume too much, most of the "moyes out brigade" as you so elegantly put it are of an older generation.

And if you're saying you haven't seen people suggest alternatives you need to actually read through the forum a bit more, Artetafan put a list forward only yesterday for example, and it didn't include Benitez.
 
Im not being funny mate genuinely seeking your opinion, would you be happy if Davey was let go this week and by the end of next Laudrup or Solskjaer was the manager.

Could we try Solskjaer for a few months and if he was gash trade him back for Moyes? :D
 
Pros of David Moyes:
Does well in transfer windows
2-3 good games a season

Cons of David Moyes:
Tactically inept, 4-5-1 for 10 years
Starts seasons in January
Distin on for Saha when chasing a result
Getting absolutely battered in Europe by the first decent side we meet
No performances in cups
Obviously doesn't know how to handle players
The favouritism of certain players
 
Im not afraid of change.

Im terrifified of it.

I honestly dont wish to ever be proven correct on this, but we will sink like the Titanic if Moyes ever leaves.

Maybe we should get Ian Holloway in, his teams play attractive football, im fairly sure the Blackpool fans loved watched their team as they sailed towards the ice berg that is The Championship.

Im sure Wigan fans loved the football their players played as they escaped relagation for the 10th Season on the run in the final 2 weeks of the Season.

I KNOW the City fans enjoyed watching as their team won the title on the last day of the Season and all for a net spend of only around 550m.

Take a long hard look at the table last Season, these are the teams that finished above us.

City, United, Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle and Chelsea, then ask yourself, Newcastle apart, do we really have the right to finish above those teams? Newcastle apart, who had a great Season, such as we did in 2004.

5 of these teams have the cash to attract quality players, 5 of these teams have some of the best players in World Football within their ranks, so do Everton, we have the best LB in the World and the best DM in the World and based on last Season, 1 of the best finishers in the World.

Do you know who bought these players? Do you know who raised this expection? Do you know who made us as fans think we have a right to be higher than we are?

Heres a clue, the answer isnt Owen Coyle.

In Moyes We Trust.

We ask for loyalty from players, every single Season, but we as fans dont show loyalty, we as fans always think the grass is greener, well, IMO, the grass isnt greener on the other side, the grass is brown and dying, with white dog turd all over it.

PLEASE, you dont want me to be right, you dont want to find out what happens without Moyes, trust me on this.

And im not gonna pretend everything is ok, its not, at times last Season I considered self harm rather than remain in my seat for some games, the football was AWFUL, but our Manager had just watched for 2 and a half Seasons as EVERY other team in the League spent money.

And guess what, he STILL maintained our League postion.

Moyes really isnt the problem, the problem lies within our Board, a Board of people who since taking over the Club have sold ALL assets, increased ALL debts and would rather waste their money on blackjack and roulette wheels than invest it into the Club, the Club that 1 of them claim to love.

Best Evertonian in the World "they" say, biggest parasite and utter snide Everton has ever seen.

He loves the Club, he loves it sooo much that on his intial "investment" of 20m, he wants 150m to walk away, best Evertonian in the World tho lads, he only wants whats best for Everton.

Im not scared of change, I welcome change, I DEMAND change, but not to our Manager.
 

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