Sam Allardyce will leave Everton within 24 hours

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I take it you've never sat through 90 mins of Allardyce 'football'?

I went to watch Fulham v Bolton at Craven Cottage when he had Jay Jay Okocha - they were fun to watch!

30 years an Arsenal fan fwiw, and if he turned up at the Emirates next year it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. I’m old enough to remember Bruce Rioch...
 
Hi.

I’m a cuckoo here (non-Everton fan).

I was reading the papers this morning and obviously the Sam Allardyce potential exit was a leading story.

I have been half following the protests in recent weeks but seeing the story that it was finally coming to a head with him being sacked moved me to google Everton forums and read what people were saying.

I think I (respectfully) speak for a lot of non-evertonians (and several pundits etc), when I say I really just don’t get it.

You guys have finished above 12 of the 13 teams you could have realistically hoped to finish above, and buy for an outlier of a season from Burnley you would have won the ‘other league’ below the top 6. And you were worried about relegation when he arrived.

I won’t hang around trolling here, but if someone could spare the time I would love to hear, on behalf of all ‘outsiders’, why do you guys hate big Sam so much???

Thanks

Great, this person's not even an evertonian and they've used up the last remaining toffee-related username on the forum.
 
Hi.

I’m a cuckoo here (non-Everton fan).

I was reading the papers this morning and obviously the Sam Allardyce potential exit was a leading story.

I have been half following the protests in recent weeks but seeing the story that it was finally coming to a head with him being sacked moved me to google Everton forums and read what people were saying.

I think I (respectfully) speak for a lot of non-evertonians (and several pundits etc), when I say I really just don’t get it.

You guys have finished above 12 of the 13 teams you could have realistically hoped to finish above, and buy for an outlier of a season from Burnley you would have won the ‘other league’ below the top 6. And you were worried about relegation when he arrived.

I won’t hang around trolling here, but if someone could spare the time I would love to hear, on behalf of all ‘outsiders’, why do you guys hate big Sam so much???

Thanks

I’ll tell you my reasons why because a fair question deserves a fair reply.

It was the Big Sam Ego Act for me - backed up by his mates in the media - he did the bare minimum expected.

The I Won, We Drew, They Lost approach to results separated his high opinion of himself versus reality.

Took credit for the West Ham win when Unsworth was Manager - claiming we were in just outside relegation when he gave us his great journey - we were thirteenth and ended eigth - he had the return of Coleman - spent £50m on Tosun & Walcott - fixtures were kind in that we played most of last years top six before he arrived - was fortunate that Cleverley missed an injury time pen at Goodison, we mugged Bournemouth at home having been shocking, fluked a win at Newcastle having been battered & scrambled a draw v West Brom.
Beat ten men are stoke & had one good away performance at Huddersfield who were shocking on the day.

Surrendered at Arsenal by picking a team that couldn’t win; hung players out to dry like Lookman, said Rooney & Siggy couldn’t play together...they did & we won next game, said Vlasic did well v United....never saw him for ten games after. Just not credible in anything he did - never sought any rapport with the fans, when we got beat he wasn’t the one who couldn’t pass the ball to another player....yet no shots on target in over three games represented progress ?

Refused to drop players out of form, looked to hang on for a point away only to get beat regularly. When safe, refused to change or give players like Klaassen a go.

It’s all about him - never forget that - lacks any sense of humility or that he may have got a substitution, a formation or a selection error - doesn’t happen in Big Sams world. He knows best...& for us who know and understand football, sometimes the truth about what you’ve just seen gives you respect.

He saw us as another paycheck, did the bare minimum, takes the best part of £10m in wages:severance and bonus.

You’re probably right mate, should be grateful for what he achieved.

If we do get Silva, no guarantees, but he’s already won more in the game than Allardyce in his whole career - I reckon someone who tells the truth, explains his plan, gets players on side with an approach that is about the collective rather than the managers who, he’ll leave with more respect than what Allardyce did in his self serving tenure. We shake hands and move on.
 
I went to watch Fulham v Bolton at Craven Cottage when he had Jay Jay Okocha - they were fun to watch!

30 years an Arsenal fan fwiw, and if he turned up at the Emirates next year it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. I’m old enough to remember Bruce Rioch...

I would love this if only to see that ballbag Merson squirm after his lavish praise for the ‘brilliant’ job he did at Everton.

You’d be gauging your eyes out with a plastic pie fork before half time of his first match lad, you have no idea.
 
I’ll tell you my reasons why because a fair question deserves a fair reply.

It was the Big Sam Ego Act for me - backed up by his mates in the media - he did the bare minimum expected.

The I Won, We Drew, They Lost approach to results separated his high opinion of himself versus reality.

Took credit for the West Ham win when Unsworth was Manager - claiming we were in just outside relegation when he gave us his great journey - we were thirteenth and ended eigth - he had the return of Coleman - spent £50m on Tosun & Walcott - fixtures were kind in that we played most of last years top six before he arrived - was fortunate that Cleverley missed an injury time pen at Goodison, we mugged Bournemouth at home having been shocking, fluked a win at Newcastle having been battered & scrambled a draw v West Brom.
Beat ten men are stoke & had one good away performance at Huddersfield who were shocking on the day.

Surrendered at Arsenal by picking a team that couldn’t win; hung players out to dry like Lookman, said Rooney & Siggy couldn’t play together...they did & we won next game, said Vlasic did well v United....never saw him for ten games after. Just not credible in anything he did - never sought any rapport with the fans, when we got beat he wasn’t the one who couldn’t pass the ball to another player....yet no shots on target in over three games represented progress ?

Refused to drop players out of form, looked to hang on for a point away only to get beat regularly. When safe, refused to change or give players like Klaassen a go.

It’s all about him - never forget that - lacks any sense of humility or that he may have got a substitution, a formation or a selection error - doesn’t happen in Big Sams world. He knows best...& for us who know and understand football, sometimes the truth about what you’ve just seen gives you respect.

He saw us as another paycheck, did the bare minimum, takes the best part of £10m in wages:severance and bonus.

You’re probably right mate, should be grateful for what he achieved.

If we do get Silva, no guarantees, but he’s already won more in the game than Allardyce in his whole career - I reckon someone who tells the truth, explains his plan, gets players on side with an approach that is about the collective rather than the managers who, he’ll leave with more respect than what Allardyce did in his self serving tenure. We shake hands and move on.


Agree on most of that - the only thing you got wrong is that we beat Bournemouth and Watford before Large Samuel arrived.

I must emphasise that one reason most fans wanted him out is the dreadful, dull, turgid football we've been playing in almost every game since he came here.
 
I’ll tell you my reasons why because a fair question deserves a fair reply.

It was the Big Sam Ego Act for me - backed up by his mates in the media - he did the bare minimum expected.

The I Won, We Drew, They Lost approach to results separated his high opinion of himself versus reality.

Took credit for the West Ham win when Unsworth was Manager - claiming we were in just outside relegation when he gave us his great journey - we were thirteenth and ended eigth - he had the return of Coleman - spent £50m on Tosun & Walcott - fixtures were kind in that we played most of last years top six before he arrived - was fortunate that Cleverley missed an injury time pen at Goodison, we mugged Bournemouth at home having been shocking, fluked a win at Newcastle having been battered & scrambled a draw v West Brom.
Beat ten men are stoke & had one good away performance at Huddersfield who were shocking on the day.

Surrendered at Arsenal by picking a team that couldn’t win; hung players out to dry like Lookman, said Rooney & Siggy couldn’t play together...they did & we won next game, said Vlasic did well v United....never saw him for ten games after. Just not credible in anything he did - never sought any rapport with the fans, when we got beat he wasn’t the one who couldn’t pass the ball to another player....yet no shots on target in over three games represented progress ?

Refused to drop players out of form, looked to hang on for a point away only to get beat regularly. When safe, refused to change or give players like Klaassen a go.

It’s all about him - never forget that - lacks any sense of humility or that he may have got a substitution, a formation or a selection error - doesn’t happen in Big Sams world. He knows best...& for us who know and understand football, sometimes the truth about what you’ve just seen gives you respect.

He saw us as another paycheck, did the bare minimum, takes the best part of £10m in wages:severance and bonus.

You’re probably right mate, should be grateful for what he achieved.

If we do get Silva, no guarantees, but he’s already won more in the game than Allardyce in his whole career - I reckon someone who tells the truth, explains his plan, gets players on side with an approach that is about the collective rather than the managers who, he’ll leave with more respect than what Allardyce did in his self serving tenure. We shake hands and move on.

Absolutely spot on.

I backed Allardyce when he arrived with the reasoning that a new manager needed backing and that he has improved sides in the past and put out a decent footballing side or two. Direct but looking to win.

He did none of this at Everton and I came to the realisation that I was wrong. I think quite a few had the impression that he was unfairly treated at West Ham but that impression was based on a few highlights on MOTD, his mates in the media and not actually watching 90 mins of West Ham week in, week out.

It's the exact same thing at Everton. A select few clips, a twisting of his achievements since arriving by his media chums, a complete lack of humility or responsibility and a PL table that only tells you how dreadfully inconsistent a lot of teams have been this season.
 
you are right mate; my memory of the season has become blurred & in condemning the man I’ve confused my facts!!! Hopefully the sentiment was still there!

Winning at home against those below us typically saw a slow and painful build up with rare flashes of skill or fortune that saw us secure much needed points - not all down to Sam - the players were poor too - but we looked stifled going forward and lacked any confidence with or without the ball. A season quickly forgotten in terms of our on pitch displays!!
 
The return of Baines, a left sided defende was also key, even though he went through the whole of Jan not buying one, then loaning out Lookman and keeping Bolasie and then keeping Williams in the team until Williams himself gave up.
He's a media darling who believes his own hype. If he came here and said, give me 6 months and I'll sort it, he would of been more appreciated, but as mentioned before the I win, we draw, they lose was unacceptable.

How many clubs is he welcomed back to?
 
Forget the non-football. I didn’t want him at this club before he came as I didn’t believe that he had the values that I cherished in this club. Nothing has changed although reputationally the club has suffered.

Any player in the prem will see us as potential relegation candidates and not only that but we probably play the worst football in the league.
 
I hope we replace Sam with Silva. I liked what he did at Hull. Very nearly keeping up one of the worst squads in Premier League history was impressive, as was the feat of guiding Hull to victory over Man Utd in the first leg of the League Cup semi-final. And as others have mentioned he did well to guide Sporting to their first major trophy in seven years.

However, for me it's his record at Olympiacos that's most impressive. Under his stewardship they won their first SEVENTEEN domestic matches of the 2015/16 season, eventually winning the Greek title (Superleague Greece) with ease. They also trounced Arsenal in the Champions League.

Cracking young manager.

He was never going to succeed at Watford. They're a small club with no money.
 
First party in 10 years tomorrow, ‘My Super Sweet Farewell Sam’ party. I’ve not partied hard for some time so I was keen to get some much needed direction. Thankfully my neighbours have a good wealth of experience in ‘Welcome home from Prison’ parties, they’ve suggested Twiglets, Babycham and a sex dungeon with pain administering appliances avec glory hole function.

Anyway, I won’t keep you I’ve got to get an early night as need to nip out and get Twiglets and finish the sex dungeon before everyone comes around.

Wish me luck! xx
 
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