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The tactics, forget about the players, the tactics have been at fault at home. Managers decision, its why we've shipped 20+ (i've forgot the total amount because its that bad). Thats the manager
I'm not being over dramatic mate. I'm saying that is how i'd see it if i thought you were right. But i don't.
You said that the injury to Howard was 'nothing more than a convenient excuse'. Note 'nothing more than'. You're saying 'he was dropped'. That suggests that there was a choice to make, that Howard could have been selected but wasn't. There's no other way of interpreting it, that is what you meant.
I'm saying that if Howard was not starting, he should have been on the bench. Yes, he's not great but he's clearly not declined to the extent that he's not even our second best keeper. And yet for 3 games he wasn't on the bench. A young lad was, who could have been called into action in the very first minute of a game and asked to keep a clean sheet. Had he conceded 4 goals and had a nightmare it could have set him back years. If Martinez made up an injury story about Howard to save face (for both of them) then I would want him sacked for putting both the club and Stanek in such a position. But i don't think he did.
Ihaters
Player Valuation: £35m
Oh.. I thought it was Martinez's inability to buy adults for the squad.
To be fair..With going backwards being the new progressing anyway, we are doing just great so he doesn't need a get out of jail card.
It's 22 or 23, I believe.
Well, yes, tactics are a huge part.
However, tactics don't account for Howard diving in at the feet of players to give penalties away vs Swansea and Leicester.
They don't explain McCarthy and Lukaku both failing to track Rondon when that is the job they had been given by the manager.
They don't explain Stones missing that tackle on Ighalo in the first game of the season.
So no, it is quite obviously not 'all down to tactics', just as the good results we've had aren't.
Re-read my explanation mate, as I did phrase my op badly.
He was clearly injured but I do think it had finally got to the point where RM knew he had a huge decision to make. Whether he would have made that call is up in the air for now as Howard got injured and he didn't have to.
AT least you got it in there
That was kind of the joke pal
Of course I'm not comparing RM's record to that of Fergie's.
What I could compare them in is that at that time Ferguson stuck by his beliefs despite immense pressure not to do so, and made them work.
Now, if RM can do the same, then there's no reason he can't take us to where we want to be.
So far, he's had a good season, a bad season and what has proved to be a so far frustrating season. However, there's over a third of it left so why don't you wait and see before writing him off...
I think people using the three year gap at Manure @nsno-chris isn't a totally unjust comparison, as shows sometimes you do need time.
Nevertheless, as you quite clearly pointed out Martinez and Ferguson are a different calibre. I might not like Fergie, but he's one of the best ever!
Nevertheless, as you quite clearly pointed out Martinez and Ferguson are a different calibre. I might not like Fergie, but he's one of the best ever!
Well we're not going backwards as the season isn't finished. In fact, anything above 11th would technically be an improvement.
And what do you mean by 'buying adults'.
Can't question his transfers, of all the things to question him on.
Whistlin' Dixie
Player Valuation: £50m
11th.
Little Ralphy
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The Swansea one they do, because it's Martinez who encourages Stones to play out from the back and tells him not to launch it. This then leads Stones to play a poor pass back to Howard...
I agree with @Ihaters Howard has been used as a scape goat this season. If you leave your keeper as isolated as Everton do then he's going to eventually start making mistakes and look bad. This in turn will knock his confidence and it's a downward spiral. He should have been dropped ages ago, but I fear that he wasn't because Martinez suspected the issue would still be there but with Joel and then people would start to look elsewhere for explanations.
It's mad cos Sunderland and Wolfsburg at home, many will see as some of our best performances over the last year, but in both games Howard played a massive part as both oppositions had better chances than we did.
I accept what you're saying but that's a massive back track.
Ihaters
Player Valuation: £35m
Dave's favourite defence is that Martinez is building a team of kids that have all these issues.. If that's the problem.. buy a grown up or two as well.
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