Roberto Martinez discussion

[deipnosophist]

Roberto's good but let's be honest - iff we stumbled on a world-beater of a manager the bigger boys would be queueing up to take him off us. So no point in getting upset.

Agreed. Roberto is a decent, likable guy and he manages a football club (through all the grades) very well. But he is a pretty limited coach. Having said that, Everton is lucky to have him, there are a lot worse out there. I do wish though that we had got Pochettino. He is a very good coach

 

[Prevenger17]

Nothing wrong with realism but if that's all we achieved I think I'd cry

A Premier League is waaaay beyond us with our current board. We can get a cup or two under this manager, of that I'm sure.

 

[daz4matty]

Agree we sat back in the second half, gave up possesion and tried to play on the break. I can understand the reasoning, often people say it is how we play best, and we had a couple of chances to make it 3-0 that if scored should have put things to bed.

Just think we sat back a bit too much and McCarthy going off plus Kone/Deulofeu tiring hindered it even more. That first goal was a beauty but with a bit better concentration we should have been able to stop the other two going in.

Think that is different that giving up and letting heads drop though. Particularly when they equalised thought we made a determined improvement in our efforts resulting in Barkley scoring, which we then screwed up again by some sloppy play!

Not arguing that we should have seen the game out, just disagree that there was a character collapse.

Have to agree to disagree mate hope ur well

 

[matty1878]

A Premier League is waaaay beyond us with our current board. We can get a cup or two under this manager, of that I'm sure.

Thatl do for now lol lol lol

 

[LinekersLegs]

Have to agree to disagree mate hope ur well

Am mate thanks, hope you are too.

Everton winning would have made me a touch happier mind

 

[deipnosophist]

A Premier League is waaaay beyond us with our current board. We can get a cup or two under this manager, of that I'm sure.

Exactly correct mate. Evertonians holding out for top 4 (let alone 1st!) are deluded. But a decent cup run should not be beyond us.

 

[daz4matty]

I remember saying get him off get him (from my arm chair watching my dodgy stream) during the Swansea game for about 10 minutes every time I seen him, did the same this one for. Still really like Martinez but I'd love him to explain why he didn't take him off, He looked extremely tired and was being had off every time down his side.

I assume your talking about kone.
Leaving him and galloway to struggle today was bad management by golden bollox.

 

[Prevenger17]

Exactly correct mate. Evertonians holding out for top 4 (let alone 1st!) are deluded. But a decent cup run should not be beyond us.

We could get top 4 if the wind was right and the tides low, but it would always be an outside bet, as it is with all the other hopefuls. This team can definitely win a cup.

 

[matty1878]

I assume your talking about kone.
Leaving him and galloway to struggle today was bad management by golden bollox.

Golden bollox lol lol lol

 

[Titus Bramble]

The manner of todays result is always going to skew peoples opinions. To concede a 98th minute equalizer put me beyond fuming. Poor in game management by both players and manager but hopefully it's just a blip.

Let's not forget we've won our last 2 home games more than comfortably and drawn our last 2 aways which is good form. If we can progress in the cup and get at least 4 points from Palace at home and Norwich away it will have been a very good few weeks. Lot of ifs like...

 

[daz4matty]

The manner of todays result is always going to skew peoples opinions. To concede a 98th minute equalizer put me beyond fuming. Poor in game management by both players and manager but hopefully it's just a blip.

Let's not forget we've won our last 2 home games more than comfortably and drawn our last 2 aways which is good form. If we can progress in the cup and get at least 4 points from Palace at home and Norwich away it will have been a very good few weeks. Lot of ifs like...

Very well put.
Lets hope the players and manager learn because they were BOTH responsible for todays fiasco

 

[Dymak]

The manner of todays result is always going to skew peoples opinions. To concede a 98th minute equalizer put me beyond fuming. Poor in game management by both players and manager but hopefully it's just a blip.

Let's not forget we've won our last 2 home games more than comfortably and drawn our last 2 aways which is good form. If we can progress in the cup and get at least 4 points from Palace at home and Norwich away it will have been a very good few weeks. Lot of ifs like...

Our last three games have been against the three worst sides in the league.

 

[Titus Bramble]

Very well put.
Lets hope the players and manager learn because they were BOTH responsible for todays fiasco

Absolutely. Can't help but think we wouldn't have conceded that goal if jagielka was on the pitch. Not that it changes anything now.

 

[Titus Bramble]

Our last three games have been against the three worst sides in the league.

You've forgotten about West Ham there I think mate. But you can only beat what's put in front of you, a win against villa only gives you the same return as a win against Man City.

 

[deipnosophist]

Our last three games have been against the three worst sides in the league.

I thought Bournemouth were a lot better team than us today. I haven't seen them at all this season so I was surprised at how easily they took us apart in the second half. That we are 7th and them 19th seems unbelievable. Suspect they won't be relegated.