Current Affairs Rail strikes

[TommyDavo]

You seem to thing there's something wrong with expecting the goods and services that were paid for and for expecting people to do their jobs.

You do you though Comrade.

No, in fact if you read my meagre posting history you would probably declare me a Tory. Adequate compo for the likes of yourself and the unions getting a reasonable deal should be a win all round

 

[edge]

Tesco turns to refrigerated rail freight service to tackle HGV crisis - Retail Gazette

Tesco has announced it will introduce a refrigerated rail freight service that will lower its carbon emissions while reducing the number of lorries it needs on the road.

www.retailgazette.co.uk

I was talking to a fella yesterday who works for an agency In a Tesco warehouse.
Shocking the way he was getting treated.
Sent home unpaid if no work and working through his break to keep his average above 90% for the shifts or he got talked to?
Modern Britain for you.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

No, in fact if you read my meagre posting history you would probably declare me a Tory. Adequate compo for the likes of yourself and the unions getting a reasonable deal should be a win all round

Except for the millions of travellers who had somewhere to be.

Not just frivolous activities but necessary and urgent journeys.

I don't agree with the strike being necessary and what's more according to what I've read they appear to be holding the services to ransom with unreasonable demands.

Disgraceful.

 

[TommyDavo]

Except for the millions of travellers who had somewhere to be.

Not just frivolous activities but necessary and urgent journeys.

I don't agree with the strike being necessary and what's more according to what I've read they appear to be holding the services to ransom with unreasonable demands.

Disgraceful.

Tell me what alternatives there are if reasonable discussion has been exhausted. I have no skin in this game and tbf I don’t know your political persuasion, so apologies on that score.

 

[Blues Harp]

Except for the millions of travellers who had somewhere to be.

Not just frivolous activities but necessary and urgent journeys.

I don't agree with the strike being necessary and what's more according to what I've read they appear to be holding the services to ransom with unreasonable demands.

Disgraceful.

Sorry mate about your holiday but you are only commenting because it actually affects you...its the only weapon a group of workers have against their employers....some employees are denied that option due to anti union legislation from both the tories and labour over the past 40 years.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I was talking to a fella yesterday who works for an agency In a Tesco warehouse.
Shocking the way he was getting treated.
Sent home unpaid if no work and working through his break to keep his average above 90% for the shifts or he got talked to?
Modern Britain for you.

Used to work for citizens advice in a smallish town. Tesco workers were repeat clients. Not only for shoddy treatment at work but also because they were totally skint and couldn’t budget cos of variable hours inevitably topped up by universal credit. Generally they were given min 7 hour contracts or something to get around zero hour contracts. HR worked alongside management and not for the staff.

 

[peteblue]

Used to work for citizens advice in a smallish town. Tesco workers were repeat clients. Not only for shoddy treatment at work but also because they were totally skint and couldn’t budget cos of variable hours inevitably topped up by universal credit. Generally they were given min 7 hour contracts or something to get around zero hour contracts. HR worked alongside management and not for the staff.

HR have never worked for the staff.…..

 

[Blues Harp]

HR have never worked for the staff.…..

What does that mean eh ?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

That's exactly what they have been doing for years .
One lot Jack's it in once the gravy train stops.
Many have been taken in house or given back to the government at that stage
Then another pops up and says we will give it a go but we need more subsidy,
Then around we go again.
Give this lot there due they have seen through it a bit and tried to get it under one banner.
Even Thatcher thought it was a bad idea from the start and so it proves.
Seems you only take umbrage when a worker wants a bit more but not when a multi national wants its.

Oh not at all, lobbying and rent seeking is rubbish whoever does it, and if there was a thread on multinationals doing that I'd be sure to say so in it

 

[edge]

Except for the millions of travellers who had somewhere to be.

Not just frivolous activities but necessary and urgent journeys.

I don't agree with the strike being necessary and what's more according to what I've read they appear to be holding the services to ransom with unreasonable demands.

Disgraceful.

What are the union demanding do you find unreasonable.
The stoping of thousands of jobs going that will affect the safety of everybody using the system.
Networkrail has already lost staff
To be replaced by private companies paying agency workers buttons, that worked out well in the passed.
See various instances of safety getting in the way of profit in this industry
Now they want to do it on mass.
Wonder who's mates will end up running those agencies?
The right to get the pensions we have paid into as.part of are terms and conditions of pay.
Why after 30 odd years do I not get something I paid for?
The fact the the union has repeatedly ask for meetings to address the issues only to be met by , management saying
We can't have a meeting unless it's has a starting piont of changes to self finance any pay deal , and the modernization of your role.
That translates to you can have 3% but your colleagues go on the dole and any you can do anything we see fit.
This has gone on for 3 years not just this week. With no talks and no pay rise for the staff.
Very unreasonable that they treat its workforce with such a contemptuous attitude.
Would you start a negotiation if the starting piont was you lose you lose, we win, to even have a meeting?

 

[Blues Harp]

What are the union demanding do you find unreasonable.
The stoping of thousands of jobs going that will affect the safety of everybody using the system.
Networkrail has already lost staff
To be replaced by private companies paying agency workers buttons, that worked out well in the passed.
See various instances of safety getting in the way of profit in this industry
Now they want to do it on mass.
Wonder who's mates will end up running those agencies?
The right to get the pensions we have paid into as.part of are terms and conditions of pay.
Why after 30 odd years do I not get something I paid for?
The fact the the union has repeatedly ask for meetings to address the issues only to be met by , management saying
We can't have a meeting unless it's has a starting piont of changes to self finance any pay deal , and the modernization of your role.
That translates to you can have 3% but your colleagues go on the dole and any you can do anything we see fit.
This has gone on for 3 years not just this week. With no talks and no pay rise for the staff.
Very unreasonable that they treat its workforce with such a contemptuous attitude.
Would you start a negotiation if the starting piont was you lose you lose, we win, to even have a meeting?

spot on mate.
The tories hold actual people who work to fuel the profits of the companies who make millions in contempt...Firms bring in outside "consultants" to "downside" their workforce, on the grounds of "making the company more profitable" These people actually enjoy making people redundant. They are the lowest of the low.

 

[TommyDavo]

What does that mean eh ?

@peteblue is telling it as it is

spot on mate.
The tories hold actual people who work to fuel the profits of the companies who make millions in contempt...Firms bring in outside "consultants" to "downside" their workforce, on the grounds of "making the company more profitable" These people actually enjoy making people redundant. They are the lowest of the low.

Don’t agree @Blues Harp with respect. Unfortunately we are in an era where people in labour are less important to profits. I worked in an industry that required manual skills, but only for certain periods of plant shutdown. Other than that the plant did and still does make a large profit

 

[edge]

@peteblue is telling it as it is

Don’t agree @Blues Harp with respect. Unfortunately we are in an era where people in labour are less important to profits. I worked in an industry that required manual skills, but only for certain periods of plant shutdown. Other than that the plant did and still does make a large profit

Don't think he meant that mate.
Was saying they get rid of workers the in the context of my post
.were management make redundant full time workers and replace with cheaper agencie staff for maximum profit.
That the way I read it anyway?

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I was talking to a fella yesterday who works for an agency In a Tesco warehouse.
Shocking the way he was getting treated.
Sent home unpaid if no work and working through his break to keep his average above 90% for the shifts or he got talked to?
Modern Britain for you.

Exactly why the strike is happening these rail employees are fighting against these conditions. Free markets means free of employment rights and protections and whole lot of other stuff to maximize profits.. Was always going to need the majority of individuals to be negatively effected by Tory ideology to wake people up from their malaise. Nothing like the lived experience.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

What does that mean eh ?

HRs job is to protect the company from you, not the other way around.