Current Affairs Rail strikes

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Standard answer, if they don't want to do it get something else, worked out well for the airline industry when there staff did just that?
The last two redundancy packages that were offered the last one was £17,500 didn't matter how long you had been on were oversubscribed and got pulled because they knew they couldn't run the job with the numbers left.
So much for the workersbeen unimportant.
It's how people in non-monopoly positions feel. The pip will be squeezed too much before long. All trains now are capable of being driven by computers. The unions have managed to ensure drivers babysit the train "in case of emergency", but that will go in time too if there is a continued lack of appreciation that compared to the rest of society rail workers have it pretty darn good.
 
Not sure what to do for the best.

Tickets cost 100 on train.

B&B costs 200 but I can cancel for free for next 10 days.

I'll probably try to risk it but a lot of people including myself are very angry that holidays that we have saved for in very hard times are being ruined by this.
I hate using them myself but in extremis are buses any help? Probably be full if trains off.
 
It's like a decade or so ago there was a big strike by ticket staff on the underground claiming that they were vital parts of the system, yet fast forward a few years and nearly all journeys are made using contactless payment.
 
Again though, compare that to checkout staff in other walks of life. Could those people selling tickets in stations go into Tesco or somewhere and get the same income for manning the checkout? I'm willing to bet that they wouldn't be able to. This is in a world in which the overwhelming majority of passengers are either season ticket holders or use the ticket machines.


It's hard to escape the notion that the RMT simply have the public over a barrel and won't stop until every task is automated away.
You havnt a clue honestly.
How many Tesco workers , go into work with gangs of drunks, drug taking youths running about the place every night.and taking up camp by the meat aisles?
Nobody to hide behind when anything happens because it you and only you that there you handle it.
Take it from me , most people would just get there head down and get out of the way rail staff havnt got that option.
Anyone in this industry will tell you ring the bt police and you either will not get through or the incident is long over
Hear of many acts of violence or suicides on the aisle of your local Tesco,
I know it rough in parts of London bit surely not that bad.
Worker called to aisle 1 to pick up the guts of someone just turned into mincemeat causing a spillage..
Not happened ?
I have had 2 suicides to deal with in the last 3 years , loads of instances of crimes
And stopped at least half a dozen others away from going under . Not that it helps on a balanced sheet but I am sure they and the family and friends are glad I was about.
And helped in other ways countless times.
look at the figures for staff assaults in the industry and at least double it as most don't bother reporting anymore
Tesco workers I am sure have there own problems to deal with but they are not alone sorting it and still expected to carry out there retail duties themselves.
Yes ticket machines might take over good luck with them helping you with a disabled passenger or any of the above.
 
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In Feb 87 I was on a bus full of hungover Irish fans heading home after we beat Scotland at Hampden, from Glasgow to Dublin via Stranraer and Larne. We left at 8.30 a.m. and I finally got off at 11.30 p.m.

I have been somewhat reluctant to use buses on anything longer than a 30 minute journey since!

The fact that we had not slept since leaving Dublin early on the Tuesday and the trip home was Friday may have been a contributory factor ? ? ? ?
 
You havnt a clue honestly.
How many Tesco workers , go into work with gangs of drunks, drug taking youths running about the place every night.and taking up camp by the meat aisles?
Nobody to hide behind when anything happens because it you and only you that there you handle it.
Take it from me , most people would just get there head down and get out of the way rail staff havnt got that option.
Anyone in this industry will tell you ring the bt police and you either will not get through or the incident is long over
Hear of many acts of violence or suicides on the aisle of your local Tesco,
I know it rough in parts of London bit surely not that bad.
Worker called to aisle 1 to pick up the guts of someone just turned into mincemeat causing a spillage..
Not happened ?
I have had 2 suicides to deal with in the last 3 years , loads of instances of crimes
And stopped at least half a dozen others away from going under . Not that it helps on a balanced sheet but I am sure they and the family and friends are glad I was about.
And helped in other ways countless times.
look at the figures for staff assaults in the industry and at least double it as most don't bother reporting anymore
Tesco workers I am sure have there own problems to deal with but they are not alone sorting it and still expected to carry out there retail duties themselves.
Yes ticket machines might take over good luck with them helping you with a disabled passenger or any of the above.
I don't doubt that, but that is not something that is unique to rail staff.


15% of NHS staff have received physical abuse in the last year and over 30% of paramedics have received a significantly higher proportion. Guess who out of paramedics and train staff is paid more?

This isn't something that's unique either, as data on abuse of retail staff shows that 83% suffered verbal abuse in the past year


That isn't to say that this is right in any way, but many people do a similarly important job and suffer considerable hardships by doing it without having the ability to be a monopoly provider of their services and therefore able to hold the public over a barrel whenever they choose to. I repeat, rail staff are paid considerably higher than similarly skilled staff in other sectors precisely because of this position, and yet they're "still" not happy.

Incidentally, I don't doubt that seeing or dealing with a suicide on the railways is horrendous. Again though, ICU nurses deal with that every day and they take home £27205 on average. How many rail staff would swap with a nurse? Maybe nurses should scrap their pledge not to strike if it harms patients and just say sod it, if it's good enough for the RMT...
 
I don't doubt that, but that is not something that is unique to rail staff.


15% of NHS staff have received physical abuse in the last year and over 30% of paramedics have received a significantly higher proportion. Guess who out of paramedics and train staff is paid more?

This isn't something that's unique either, as data on abuse of retail staff shows that 83% suffered verbal abuse in the past year


That isn't to say that this is right in any way, but many people do a similarly important job and suffer considerable hardships by doing it without having the ability to be a monopoly provider of their services and therefore able to hold the public over a barrel whenever they choose to. I repeat, rail staff are paid considerably higher than similarly skilled staff in other sectors precisely because of this position, and yet they're "still" not happy.

Incidentally, I don't doubt that seeing or dealing with a suicide on the railways is horrendous. Again though, ICU nurses deal with that every day and they take home £27205 on average. How many rail staff would swap with a nurse? Maybe nurses should scrap their pledge not to strike if it harms patients and just say sod it, if it's good enough for the RMT...
I wouldn't swop with a nurse , couldnt actually havnt got the skill to do it don't think they would want my job either if somebody said if you don't like it go get another one.
By the way last survey of staff on the rail , 5000 took part, [most I know wouldn't bother filling it in),
3 out of 5 workers had suffered some form of assault.
Think of that at the next meetings your at most of the people in the room would have been a victim ,
Not a minority.
It's not painless for us we lose about half are hours those weeks, we have the same pressure on household cost as everybody else, 75% of us voted to strike do you think we did it on a whim?
I am not a slave(, sure some tories think I should be one) and thankful for being allowed to work,
And will uphold my right to withhold my labour as long as its lawful to do so.
Same if any other worker ,nhs ect wanted to they will always have my support.
Just to wind the metropolitan classes up.
 
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Not sure what to do for the best.

Tickets cost 100 on train.

B&B costs 200 but I can cancel for free for next 10 days.

I'll probably try to risk it but a lot of people including myself are very angry that holidays that we have saved for in very hard times are being ruined by this.

You can travel a day before or two days after on the strike day ticket
 
I wouldn't swop with a nurse , couldnt actually havnt got the skill to do it don't think they would want my job either if somebody said if you don't like it go get another one.
By the way last survey of staff on the rail , 5000 took part, [most I know wouldn't bother filling it in),
3 out of 5 workers had suffered some form of assault.
Think of that at the next meetings your at most of the people in the room would have been a victim ,
Not a minority.
It's not painless for us we lose about half are hours those weeks, we have the same pressure on household cost as everybody else, 75% of us voted to strike do you think we did it on a whim?
I am not a slave(, sure some tories think I should be one) and thankful for being allowed to work,
And will uphold my right to withhold my labour as long as its lawful to do so.
Same if any other worker ,nhs ect wanted to they will always have my support.
Just to wind the metropolitan classes up.
Knew a lad who killed himself in front of a train. One of the things I thought of was what the driver and staff must have seen. Some jobs aren’t worth it.
 
You can travel a day before or two days after on the strike day ticket

Helpful for other people but not for me.

I've taken Friday off to travel down early morning to come back on Sunday evening for work again on Monday.

Even if I were to travel down Thursday night I'd have to pay another 100 quid for a room which would be expensive and pointless as I dont get any of the benefits of being in Cornwall that night.

I manage a team of nurses and health professionals. My staff are under incredible pressures and have endured countless abuse and aggressive acts (not from me). Nurses generally don't strike as they realise the impact it would have on patient care. Although risk can be minimised it comes with the territory. The increase in wages is far below what is being offered to rail workers yet they see fit to inflict misery on the public for their gain.
 
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