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The strike on the 26th has scuppered part of my plans for that weekend, but just going to jump a coach anyway

Met Mick Lynch in town a few weeks back watching the footy, so keep on keeping on
Mick Lynch was sound when he was down my mate gave him loads about the station staff, basically going on strike for near a month and no movement at all now looking like we are gone.
Said looks like we have been used as cannon fodder to get network rail a deal and we should have been all out together and back together.
My mate got a round applauded by the meeting.
Afterwards Mick Lynch asked around were he was and came over and talked to him and bought him a drink .
My mate said he was really good company and open to talk too.
 
My problem is the services seemingly rely on people working overtime at eye watering rates and them being able to withdraw their labour at will.

They need to be contracted to work weekends, it's ridiculous that a service runs 7 days a week without the expectancy that it's employees work to it's requirements.
The vast majority of staff are already contacted to work weekends anyway.
Only certain drivers dont have to work, most do,
The network rail staff , signal worker ect got weekends sorted out with their pay rise so they work weekends as well.
Lots trying to leave by the way and the redundancy scheme is well oversubscribed.
Good look training all those positions or not but as the case may be.
I have to work 2 or three Sundays a month,
I can't take them off unless there is cover.
Take the payments for weekends out of are wages it's a difference of about £700 ,in are grade that's instead of taking home £2000 to £1,900 down to £1.300 to £1.400
Don't forget that's for working every bank holiday new year , Xmas eve, being up the crack of dawn, one week getting in after midnight the week after.
No transport at the times we work so you have to run a car.
My fuel costs alone are £140 a month ,
Not surprisingly with the new proposals doing away with the Sundays that everyone is jumping ship.it will just be another low pay job, and attract a ever changing workforce, seen it when I worked in Manchester Airport , went from a well payed job to exactly what they want the rail to be , look how that's turned out, from one of the best airports in Europe in the 80s, the year I was was there only Amsterdam and Jersey got higher scores for satisfaction,
to voted the worst last few years.
The reason the overtime bans hit is that the industry never employed a full quota of staff, think we are 20 odd down on full time rolls in are area alone.
That's about 30 stations
There has never been enough drivers in all my time in the rail industry, the companies have been relying on the staff coving the cracks for years .
The drivers rosters are awful people get the job and despite the wages move on .
My nephew a driver is paying his mortgage off in about 3 years then walking away as he is fed up with it already.
For instance his shift last week was staring work Friday finished 1 .15 am Saturday, then in work 4.30 am monday morning.
Saturday wad supposed to be a day off.
You get in about 1.30 can't just drop off so are awake till say 2.30 , then Saturday have to be in bed about 9pm , 10pm to make sure you have any sleep , that's if you can get off to sleep that is.
Not exactly a brilliant work life ballance.
It will be a worse service, not even the tories can spin it any other way.
The current depute could have been settled long ago if it was just about pay it isn't and hasn't been from day one, by the way we are in are 4th year without a pay rise.
Total staff cost would have been £89 million if they paid the staff what they asked for , it's cost the government over a billion up to now to cover the costs of there losses to the rail companies, who obviously don't care there shareholders are still getting payments due to the government coving them.
That's not counting the other costs to the country, tourism, entertainment ect.
It's a political strike brought in by the tories to get the industry in line with there low pay , insecure part time low earning, strategy for the working class in this country.
At the end of it all , the drivers will still be on decent pay so there often spouted pay will still be getting paid,
I fact if they get more duties it will go even higher.
Don't believe the tory/daily mail spin it's greedy staff the facts don't back it up.
 
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Not specific to this strike, but a nice window into how corporations view their workers and the class consciousness of capitalists.

In their view you are a resource and are not here to take any level of joy from life, think on how many actions during the cost of living crisis were deliberate and benefitted the few.

 
The vast majority of staff are already contacted to work weekends anyway.
Only certain drivers dont have to work, most do,
The network rail staff , signal worker ect got weekends sorted out with their pay rise so they work weekends as well.
Lots trying to leave by the way and the redundancy scheme is well oversubscribed.
Good look training all those positions or not but as the case may be.
I have to work 2 or three Sundays a month,
I can't take them off unless there is cover
.
Take the payments for weekends out of are wages it's a difference of about £700 ,in are grade that's instead of taking home £2000 to £1,900 down to £1.300 to £1.400
Don't forget that's for working every bank holiday new year , Xmas eve, being up the crack of dawn, one week getting in after midnight the week after.
No transport at the times we work so you have to run a car.
My fuel costs alone are £140 a month
,
Not surprisingly with the new proposals doing away with the Sundays that everyone is jumping ship.it will just be another low pay job, and attract a ever changing workforce, seen it when I worked in Manchester Airport , went from a well payed job to exactly what they want the rail to be , look how that's turned out, from one of the best airports in Europe in the 80s, the year I was was there only Amsterdam and Jersey got higher scores for satisfaction,
to voted the worst last few years.
The reason the overtime bans hit is that the industry never employed a full quota of staff, think we are 20 odd down on full time rolls in are area alone.
That's about 30 stations
There has never been enough drivers in all my time in the rail industry, the companies have been relying on the staff coving the cracks for years .
The drivers rosters are awful people get the job and despite the wages move on .
My nephew a driver is paying his mortgage off in about 3 years then walking away as he is fed up with it already.
For instance his shift last week was staring work Friday finished 1 .15 am Saturday, then in work 4.30 am monday morning.
Saturday wad supposed to be a day off.
You get in about 1.30 can't just drop off so are awake till say 2.30 , then Saturday have to be in bed about 9pm , 10pm to make sure you have
any sleep , that's if you can get off to sleep that is.
Not exactly a brilliant work life ballance.
It will be a worse service, not even the tories can spin it any other way.
The current depute could have been settled long ago if it was just about pay it isn't and hasn't been from day one, by the way we are in are 4th year without a pay rise.
Total staff cost would have been £89 million if they paid the staff what they asked for , it's cost the government over a billion up to now to cover the costs of there losses to the rail companies, who obviously don't care there shareholders are still getting payments due to the government coving them.
That's not counting the other costs to the country, tourism, entertainment ect.
It's a political strike brought in by the tories to get the industry in line with there low pay , insecure part time low earning, strategy for the working class in this country.
At the end of it all , the drivers will still be on decent pay so there often spouted pay will still be getting paid,
I fact if they get more duties it will go even higher.
Don't believe the tory/daily mail spin it's greedy staff the facts don't back it up.
Unfortunately, welcome to the world that a huge amount of workers live in already in many many industries.

And they are workers without unions.
 
Unfortunately, welcome to the world that a huge amount of workers live in already in many many industries.

And they are workers without unions.
Out of 570 staff effected over 500 have put in for VRS( its just under a thousand a year maximum up to 36, not exactly brilliant )and they have closed that sceme now due to the numbers, says a lot about the new so called roles that are on offer.
Manager has already told me they are going to struggle to get people in to cover the new roles.
Even if they get them from outside it will be a high turn over job as people realise the reality of what's in front of them.
First time there is any trouble, delays, cancellation , suicides , antisocial behaviour ect
They will be right in the middle if it alone, on a platform, the booking office will be completely shutdown at most locations and staff have been told to use the facilities in the area to go the toilet ect.
It's not a welcome to what others do in non union workplaces do, we have been doing antisocial hours for decades, its part of the job.
The shift pay actually makes the job fairly decent paid by today's standards. Without it not worth the bother.
The union have been crap in my eyes by the way.
it's a mass goodbye stick your job up your arse by the current workforce.
 
Out of 570 staff effected over 500 have put in for VRS( its just under a thousand a year maximum up to 36, not exactly brilliant )and they have closed that sceme now due to the numbers, says a lot about the new so called roles that are on offer.
Manager has already told me they are going to struggle to get people in to cover the new roles.
Even if they get them from outside it will be a high turn over job as people realise the reality of what's in front of them.
First time there is any trouble, delays, cancellation , suicides , antisocial behaviour ect
They will be right in the middle if it alone, on a platform, the booking office will be completely shutdown at most locations and staff have been told to use the facilities in the area to go the toilet ect.
It's not a welcome to what others do in non union workplaces do, we have been doing antisocial hours for decades, its part of the job.
The shift pay actually makes the job fairly decent paid by today's standards. Without it not worth the bother.
The union have been crap in my eyes by the way.
it's a mass goodbye stick your job up your arse by the current workforce.
I tried years a go to get in the rail. Train driver and guard roles etc.. did the online tests and that. Ridiculous requirements to get in. I think the whole industry needs an overhaul, as do many industries.
 
I tried years a go to get in the rail. Train driver and guard roles etc.. did the online tests and that. Ridiculous requirements to get in. I think the whole industry needs an overhaul, as do many industries.
Most those jobs are already gone mate, friends and family of managers before you even applied.
Staff internally have to do those test as well now.
Used to be a lot of families asking for others to get on the rail but it's stopped now,
Nearly all managers picks its corrupt.
Ironically Drivers is the best bet for outsiders to get in.
Honestly would give it a miss , very few decent jobs left outside of the clerical side, which is decent pay ect.outside of the office side of it.
Not worth the effort for what you get put of it in the long run.
I havnt tried to get anyone from my family in so that tells you all you need to know.
 
Stations staying open now.
But the union has a fresh mandate to strike now over pay,
Won last week Hugh majority
(Rail workers still have a bit of fight in them, nice to see in this modern world.)
So strikes still on the cards.
Although some rumours of an offer going around.
If its true staff will accept so hopefully some light at the end of the tunnel.
You'd know better than me, but my take is these offices would be closing had it not been for the workers strikes and Union officals performing extremely well on TV to present their case. Thousands of travellers including the most vulnerable will be better off for it.
 
You'd know better than me, but my take is these offices would be closing had it not been for the workers strikes and Union officals performing extremely well on TV to present their case. Thousands of travellers including the most vulnerable will be better off for it.
They did well the union
public did there bit as well, including various groups for disabilities ect.
Good all around from everyone.
They were well getting shut, went as far as plans for retail use of certain offices.
This was all thought up by Shapps.
Tells you all you need to know, needs a bit of changing but this was so ill thought out.
 
We have had an offer , giving us about 8% and job security
talking to people today , overwhelming numbers will accept it so the strikes will be over for now from the RMT.
Don't know how the drivers will go, but the way the government have crumbled would be surprised if they get an offer as well.
What the government's went down this path I will never know.
 
We have had an offer , giving us about 8% and job security
talking to people today , overwhelming numbers will accept it so the strikes will be over for now from the RMT.
Don't know how the drivers will go, but the way the government have crumbled would be surprised if they get an offer as well.
What the government's went down this path I will never know.
Very promising. Sounds like the reaction to the idiotic plan to close ticket offices is what's won it. Even the Tories know better than to [Poor language removed] their own demographic, but they're stupid enough to think about it out loud.
 
Very promising. Sounds like the reaction to the idiotic plan to close ticket offices is what's won it. Even the Tories know better than to [Poor language removed] their own demographic, but they're stupid enough to think about it out
Typical some idiot in an office thinks they know how something works.
And charges ahead with a plan because it looks good on a spreadsheet.
Shapps the idiot was right behind this and that clown that network rail have in charge , that came from British airways.
a former decent company totally ruined by this very same fella.
The public reaction did win it,
Even in the transport committee, a good few tories to give them there due were right agaist it.

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