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Tories again
The firm my Mrs works for announced in a team meeting on Skype that some staff were getting laid off and would receive emails and a few got them during the actual meeting.
Can’t believe people can be treated like that
NilSatisOptimum
Player Valuation: £70m
Registered the boats outside UK because of Brexit which as consequence allowed them to circumvent UK employment laws.
Another benefit of Brexit. Well done
Another benefit of Brexit. Well done
tommytowne
Player Valuation: £50m
Maybe someone can enlighten me on this aspect of the issue.
We heard this guy speak this morning of being someone who answered the ad and signed up for the jobs on board.
He was bussed from Glasgow to Cairnryan were along the way they were met by the security staff, in his words twenty big blokes full black PPE sporting handcuffs.
I thought only appointed, warranted personnel were allowed to use handcuffs not some rent a mob, or am I out of touch on such matters?
We heard this guy speak this morning of being someone who answered the ad and signed up for the jobs on board.
He was bussed from Glasgow to Cairnryan were along the way they were met by the security staff, in his words twenty big blokes full black PPE sporting handcuffs.
I thought only appointed, warranted personnel were allowed to use handcuffs not some rent a mob, or am I out of touch on such matters?
FrenchDarrenBent
Player Valuation: £20m
That's what happens if turkeys keep voting for christmas
This was a firm based in Sweden (unbelievably) I’m all for Tory bashing but it seems that this is not exclusive to the U.K.
Shipping companies have been doing this sort of stuff for years. I was with P&O Tankships for a few years until they were bought by Fishers. Horrible company to work for, treat the staff like dirt.
As long as the agency staff all hold the Internationally recognised certification, theoretically they are all qualified to operate the ships.
Not just the RMT. The officer's union Nautilus were kept in the dark as well, no consultation from P&O. Normally when shipping companies pull this sort of stunt they negotiate with the unions first.
Believe me this practice pre-dates Brexit by decades. There are very few British or UK flagged ships sailing with full, or even part, British crew. You can have a British or UK flagged ship with crew members from several different nationalities and none of them British. Strange that it takes an event like this (P&O being a supposedly "all British" company, which it isn't) to make people sit up and take notice.Registered the boats outside UK because of Brexit which as consequence allowed them to circumvent UK employment laws.
Another benefit of Brexit. Well done
Afaik it depends on where the employment contract was signed. A couple of years back a steward on one of the cruise ships was sacked somewhere in the Caribbean. It was decided that Irish employment law applied because he signed his employment contract in Dublin.
When I retired 6 years ago my employment contract was with a shell company in St Peter Port in Guernsey, this was so the real employer didn't have to pay employer's NI. Polish and Romanian officers had contracts with a shell company in New Zealand which meant they didn't have to pay income tax to their home countries. It's all very carefully worked out with the lawyers to cover the employer's back.
All ships are frequently inspected by Port State (whichever country the ship happens to be in at the time) or Flag State (whichever country the ship is registered in) and (in case of tankers) oil company vetting inspectors who go through all the paperwork with a fine-toothed comb. If any disparity is found with the crew certification and contracts the ship can be arrested and held until the disparity is solved. You can be sure that the shipowner has all the I's dotted and the T's crossed before a ship goes anywhere. A ship at sea is making money (in general), a ship in port is losing money.
I've long held the opinion that you need to be to get there, or even want it. Generalisation but its held in my experience.
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