Nikica Jelavic

[TheBlueGibbon]

This!!

And calls for Velios and Duffy are ridiculous!!

But calls to drop Jagielka to play Distin and Heitinga aren't, despite the fact that both are out of form?
We're conceding goals from set-pieces, Duffy might help alleviate that, same with Vellios and the hoofball we played yesterday.

 

[Allezfan]

Rodwell had played enough to warrent being dismissed as awful but you don't think so.

Rodwell played a huge ammount of games for us. I have no problem with people forming an opinion on him based on that. I thought there was aplayer there, manicni thought he was worth 15 million pounds, Moyes thought he should start every game last autumn and you thought he was awful, that's all fair.

Vellios though he's played so little football for us (and scored the same amount fo goals as Naismith in less pitch time) that I don't get where the detractors are coming from.

 

[hktoffee]

I'm not saying he's not missing chances, he is but he's also not getting very good service either, forwards who aren't messi or ronaldo don't score a goal a game

Absolutely. I don't think Everton played well at all since the Fulham game. Our attacking play became very average for the last 3 games, unlike the start of the season.

 

[Allezfan]

I'm not saying he's not missing chances, he is but he's also not getting very good service either

Not getting the right kind of service for him maybe. But again we're having lots of play in the final third, lots of shots, lots of crosses.

If jelavic can't capatilise on that then jelavic isn't the right striker to play. Like I've said two or three time if he doesn't suit the way we're playing why still play him?

 

[Allezfan]

Absolutely. I don't think Everton played well at all since the Fulham game. Our attacking play became very average for the last 3 games, unlike the start of the season.

Thought we were decent in the first half of both the last two games, we just fell apart after the break.

 

[hktoffee]

Rodwell played a huge ammount of games for us. I have no problem with people forming an opinion on him based on that. I thought there was aplayer there, manicni thought he was worth 15 million pounds, Moyes thought he should start every game last autumn and you thought he was awful, that's all fair.

Vellios though he's played so little football for us (and scored the same amount fo goals as Naismith in less pitch time) that I don't get where the detractors are coming from.

And Moyes thought selling Rodwell was a good business then we got Mirallas and Oviedo which are great! His performance on the pitch spoke it all.

15M means nothing to Man City and Manicni. Man City always paid a Man City price. I am happy because no one is stupid enough (apart from Citch) to pay us 15M for Rodwell. A few season ago, maybe.

 

[hktoffee]

Thought we were decent in the first half of both the last two games, we just fell apart after the break.

Yeah, you're right but still I think we played much better in Aug AND Sept.

 

[DanEFC92]

utter bollocks...he isn't being presented with the type of chance he thrives on. A goal scorer is a goalscorer you either play to his strengths and he will bag goals or you can try make him run the channels or track back and his goals will suffer, you can't have it both ways.

The long-ball-hail-marys from Heitinga and co aren't helping, but he isn't finding any space. You watch him yesterday and he'd drift to the opposite flank and no one is going to pick him out

 

[ToffeeBlueNose]

Not getting the right kind of service for him maybe. But again we're having lots of play in the final third, lots of shots, lots of crosses.

If jelavic can't capatilise on that then jelavic isn't the right striker to play. Like I've said two or three time if he doesn't suit the way we're playing why still play him?

Do you not think most of the chances we get are falling to midfielders on the edge of the box though? last year we were getting to the byline and cutting them back, everything seems to be coming from deeper this year, that's my observation anyway.

 

[Cotto]

But calls to drop Jagielka to play Distin and Heitinga aren't, despite the fact that both are out of form?
We're conceding goals from set-pieces, Duffy might help alleviate that, same with Vellios and the hoofball we played yesterday.

Seriously, how can anyone say Jagielka is in form and the other two arent??? Completely baffled by that. Heitinga has been terrible next to Jagielka. Cant think of anything Distin has done wrong? Jagielka is not all that!! If anything the back four is most solid with Distin in it!

Duffy isnt good enough to be in a side trying to get a top 4 finish.

And Velios... No faith at all.

 

[ToffeeBlueNose]

The long-ball-hail-marys from Heitinga and co aren't helping, but he isn't finding any space. You watch him yesterday and he'd drift to the opposite flank and no one is going to pick him out

that's what i mean though, he's not playing his natural game because he's not getting service so he's doing things that don't suit his style.

 

[DanEFC92]

that's what i mean though, he's not playing his natural game because he's not getting service so he's doing things that don't suit his style.

Just saying that Jelavic shouldn't be excused of any criticism atm, badly out of form.

 

[hktoffee]

that's what i mean though, he's not playing his natural game because he's not getting service so he's doing things that don't suit his style.

In the last 2 games, there were too much hoof back from the back to Jelavic for him to chase. He isn't Shane Long unfortunately.

 

[DanEFC92]

Seriously, how can anyone say Jagielka is in form and the other two arent??? Completely baffled by that. Heitinga has been terrible next to Jagielka. Cant think of anything Distin has done wrong? Jagielka is not all that!! If anything the back four is most solid with Distin in it!

Duffy isnt good enough to be in a side trying to get a top 4 finish.

And Velios... No faith at all.

Jagielka has been our best CB this season so far. How are you oblivious to that? You obviously have some form of vendetta against him. Heitinga is horrendously out of form, has been for ages.

He's played a handful of games and looked solid in all of them, so why dismiss him? Yeah cause we're going to get a top 4 finish...

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

 

[ToffeeBlueNose]

Just saying that Jelavic shouldn't be excused of any criticism atm, badly out of form.

oh yeah don't get me wrong, i've said in in many posts he is woefully out of form, i just don't think we are playing a style that suits him at the moment. When a goalscorer is out of form it's a bit different because you want to keep plying him so he will come good, even if 'one goes in off his arse'. when you have no decent back up this is even more so.