New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

[dockroad]

Any shouts for a good chippy on the way to the ground? Freezing today, so would love a chip barm before the game.

There's a little place next to the Blue House does hot food to take out , is it Regent News ?

 

[Moomin]

I'm auto logged into one at work and another at home as I couldn't access my original account in work. Boring explanation done.....can we try and work out what your point is now? How does passage of time change what I said "over 4 weeks" ago? If we get to a certain point and nothing has been booked then there will clearly be no concerts. That didn't make you correct, nor me wrong, when you tried to claim it was too late in December, or whenever it was, and I clearly evidenced an abundance of summer gigs announced in February last year. Do you lack basic understanding? I'm not sure why this is difficult for you.

Any concerts booked for the main stadium this month?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Any concerts booked for the main stadium this month?

Long said on here, I pity the person tasked with trying to booking concerts. Tough, ahem, gig that.

For reasons here and here. Mainly;

... There isn't many artists touring who perform stadiums.
... The artists who perform stadiums over arenas do so because of capacity.
... From the stadiums available in the region, Everton's capacity will be less than others in the region. The others will also have had a record of hosting concerts. That matters to promoters.

They'd have to do some deal to get the first few through the door.

 

[davek]

So far the quality of events they've attracted to the new stadium are poor. An international friendly that QPR or Charlton could have hosted and a couple of rugby games. Not exactly international household names. Hopefully better events will be hosted in future.

We need to get a series of summer gigs from Springsteen/McCartney/Swift/Oasis etc.

That lot over there have got it spot on.

Get them in and out close season and dont devalue the stadium with tat.

We have marketing managers who cant do anything other than loan our stadium out mid-season to rugby teams and codswallop international football outfits.

It wasn't what was promised and it's not acceptable.

 

[Ruairi77]

We need to get a series of summer gigs from Springsteen/McCartney/Swift/Oasis etc.

That lot over there have got it spot on.

Get them in and out close season and dont devalue the stadium with tat.

We have marketing managers who cant do anything other than loan our stadium out mid-season to rugby teams.

It wasn't what was promised and it's not acceptable.

patience Dave, the stadium is only open a wet weekend.

 

[davek]

patience Dave, the stadium is only open a wet weekend.

Start as you mean to go on.

The least Ild have expected for this summer is that plaza to have a series of events lined up...no doubt this lot will have 7-a-side rugby.

 

[Moomin]

Long said on here, I pity the person tasked with trying to booking concerts. Tough, ahem, gig that.

For reasons here and here.

Always going to be a tough sell especially when you have Anfield and Etihad in close proximity. These discussions for summer stadium gigs will be taking place around 18 months prior to the concert.

The Co-op Arena opening shambles will have promoters and insurance companies running scared. I said last month that I think it's too late in the day for this summer but that 2027 will be our target for these gigs.

But @BullensBob and @Christophe1 seems to think plenty of concerts will be booked this month and it's not too late in the day.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

We need to get a series of summer gigs form Springsteen/McCartney/Swift/Oasis etc.

That lot over there have got it spot on.

Get them in and out close season and dont devalue the stadium with tat.

We have marketing managers who cant do anything other than loan our stadium out mid-season to rugby teams.

It wasn't what was promised and it's not acceptable.

The best marketing folk in the world aren't pulling extra seats out their arse.

Anfield delivers £1m+ ticket sales, per show - solely on capacity.

Then there's the Old Traffords, Etihad will be 60k soon too.

 

[davek]

The best marketing folk in the world aren't pulling extra seats out their arse.

Anfield delivers £1m+ ticket sales, per show - solely on capacity. [edit] capacity difference uplift vs ours.

Then there's the Old Traffords, Etihad will be 60k soon too.

IIRC they got £12M from the Taylor Swift shows alone.


EDIT: $12M

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Always going to be a tough sell especially when you have Anfield and Etihad in close proximity. These discussions for summer stadium gigs will be taking place around 18 months prior to the concert.

The Co-op Arena opening shambles will have promoters and insurance companies running scared. I said last month that I think it's too late in the day for this summer but that 2027 will be our target for these gigs.

But @BullensBob and @Christophe1 seems to think plenty of concerts will be booked this month and it's not too late in the day.

I don't think Co-op enters the debate, because it's an arena.

They don't have a single event in their diary that would be held in a stadium.

I'll be very surprised if we ever see regular concerts by genuinely stadium selling artists at the stadium.

IIRC they got £12M from the Taylor Swift shows alone.

I was referring to the extra 8,000/8,500 seats they have and the revenue on the back of that extra capacity vs our stadium.

 

[davek]

Always going to be a tough sell especially when you have Anfield and Etihad in close proximity. These discussions for summer stadium gigs will be taking place around 18 months prior to the concert.

The Co-op Arena opening shambles will have promoters and insurance companies running scared. I said last month that I think it's too late in the day for this summer but that 2027 will be our target for these gigs.

But @BullensBob and @Christophe1 seems to think plenty of concerts will be booked this month and it's not too late in the day.

The thing is though - and I concede on the transport problems - aren't we always being told that the dock wall, form a security pov, and huge plaza to allow movement of fans, and the riverside setting are natural attractions we have over the landlocked, inner-suburbs of Anfield?

 

[Blue peter]

Long said on here, I pity the person tasked with trying to booking concerts. Tough, ahem, gig that.

For reasons here and here. Mainly;

... There isn't many artists touring who perform stadiums.
... The artists who perform stadiums over arenas do so because of capacity.
... From the stadiums available in the region, Everton's capacity will be less than others in the region. The others will also have had a record of hosting concerts. That matters to promoters.

They'd have to do some deal to get the first few through the door.

Capacity / revenue trumps everything.

 

[Moomin]

I don't think Co-op enters the debate, because it's an arena.

They don't have a single event in their diary that would be held in a stadium.

I'll be very surprised if we ever see regular concerts by genuinely stadium selling artists at the stadium.



I was referring to the extra 8,000/8,500 seats they have and the revenue on the back of that extra capacity vs our stadium.

I was talking about the Co-op opening was rushed and a load of concerts got cancelled and moved back.

Promoters would be worried about the risk at having concerts at the new ground without any evidence it can be done and no issues.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

The thing is though - and I concede on the transport problems - aren't we always being told that the dock wall, form a security pov, and huge plaza to allow movement of fans, and the riverside setting are natural attractions we have over the landlocked, inner-suburbs of Anfield?

Yeah, had this debate many years back on here - promoters don't care one about a nice riverside setting.

It's this;

Capacity / revenue trumps everything.

Bingo.

£150 a ticket at 52,769
£150 a ticket at 61,276

Even when you look at the likes of Emirates Old Trafford who compete, they had Green Day and Foo Fighters a year or two back - only 50,000 but they had hospitality+hotel packages we wouldn't compete with.

 

[davek]

Yeah, had this debate many years back on here - promoters don't care one about a nice riverside setting.

It's this;



Bingo.

£150 a ticket at 52,769
£150 a ticket at 61,276

Even when you look at the likes of Emirates Old Trafford who compete, they had Green Day and Foo Fighters a year or two back - only 50,000 but they had hospitality+hotel packages we wouldn't compete with.

If that's the case and the transport solution is years off we've been sold a pup by the club then.