Did OK against a very good Villa side. Was an active part in a clean sheet, so that will do for me.
Exactly. Two incredibly difficult away games and he was part of a defence that took six points and returned two clean sheets. It would be insane to drop him and weaken the side by playing O'Brien there instead.
….i have no doubt O’Brien is the better defender so the temptation will always be there to play him over Patterson but it shouldn’t matter this weekend with Keane being unavailable.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Even if Keane is still suspended we'll have Gueye back and that should alleviate Garner to go back to RB where he'll be a lot more of a safe choice geting forward.
We're going to have a lot more players in the opposition half against Leeds than we did against Villa, so we need a back line that's defensively up to the counter attacks.
Come on Eggs you know about football. Surely you can see that a proper RB ( even one that's not great ) gives the whole team better balance.
If you just want a RB to defend , sit deep and not go over the halfway line you can coach anyone to defend - see Tony Hibbert
NilSatisOptimum
Player Valuation: £70m
Be good test this Leeds side for Patterson, all they do is wing it in for DCL.
The other league matches he played this season it’s been more down the middle, or some crosses with nothing to aim at in Forests case.
The other league matches he played this season it’s been more down the middle, or some crosses with nothing to aim at in Forests case.
…yep, as I’ve posted recently, I totally agree with the balance point.
Problem with Patterson is the risk of him doing something stupid, it’s what’ll be at the forefront of Moyes’ decision making although this week should be another opportunity for him.
Making out like Patterson routinely does something stupid? I've not seen that.
A settled run in the team, and some confidence would help the lad.
Besides, the player who'd take his place isn't exempt 'from doing something stupid', the past few games risking red cards for petulance (kick out at Kevin Schade) or forgetting he's not playing basketball;
It's unfair on O'Brien to play him right back for so long when he's a centre half.
If there's a right back available, play him.
MisterJ
Player Valuation: £35m
Please, no more of the Garner at right back shouts. You want to move our currently most effective player out of the position he prefers and is having most effect at this moment in time? That way madness lies.
Even if Keane is still suspended we'll have Gueye back and that should alleviate Garner to go back to RB where he'll be a lot more of a safe choice geting forward.
We're going to have a lot more players in the opposition half against Leeds than we did against Villa, so we need a back line that's defensively up to the counter attacks.
Patterson did ok in his last 2 outings. If Moyes sees fit to start him then he needs to do that again and again and again till any debate has gone.
Has he got that in him, I don't know but if the manager sees fit to include him then so be it
Just no more Garner at right back talk, that's not the solution
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
You seem to forget that Garner has had mixed fortunes in MF even in the last few weeks. Yes he excelled against Villa but he was a bit hit and miss in other games there.
At RB he is exactly what we need: defensively sound - strong in the tackle and good positional sense; excellent engine for getting up the field and joining in attacks.
Garner Tarkowski O'Brien Mykolenko is as good as we can get for a backline short of buying new FBs in and the reintroduction of Branthwaite.
When Dewsbury-Hall and Gana are back Id still play Garner right back if we didnt have one, for the same reason I advocate Patterson there. Balance. He can cross a ball too.
Its not ideal but on occasion its for the benefit of the team.
Ideally, we just have capable full backs...
Yeah I think he’s done ok not sure much more than that but ok as a fullback gives us a real boost on the field compared to a centre half there , the side look so much stronger .
Nowadays though there is more to being a Fullback than defending and OBrien looks what he is - playing out of position
Taken as a whole on current form
Patterson is the better (all round) Fullback*
* not the highest of bars though
How long Patterson will keep this recent levels of performance up - time will tell.
