Haha. He's clearly gash and will never improve as a manager or do better at another club after failing in such a gash league as Scotland. Nor will Wenger who got his team relegated so is clearly a crap manager.
I'm in 2 minds over Martinez but as witnessed on here in various threads, some people do but you cannot truly judge a managers ability solely on his win/loss/finishing position.
You can't, some teams are easier to win with than others and some managerial positions require different skills to others.
It's very rare for a manager, even a world class one, to succeed in every position he holds. And if it wasn't so hard to tell exactly whether a manager will succeed or not there would be a lot more good appointments and lot lower turnover rate.
Again, going solely by points per pound, two of the best in english football are Paul Jewell and Sam Allardyce. But fans, pundits and chairmen of big clubs have loooked at their style and their way of doing things and decided, to the one, that they wouldn't be able to achieve the same results at a higher level, much to Allardyce's annoyance it must be said. And probably rightly so, Graham Taylor and Roy Hodgson have both spoken about the difficulities of transfering their particular styles to the very highest levels, despite them being horriffically successful in less competitive leagues. (I have a lot of time for Taylor, who is a rather tragic figure who was aware that his style could never succeed at the very top but was simply not capable of playing any other way.)
But it's hard to properly seperate the manager from the club. What's his style and strengths compared to what has simply been dictated by his circumstances.
You can't say, oh look Martinez has been relegated at that club, he'll do the same with this. Or, for that matte,r Martinez has won a trophy with that club, he'll do the same with this.
I just think we're a good team, who's flaws are a tendenacy to panic and give up ground too easily at the end of games, to under perform in big cup games, to attack too slowly when countering, to resort to hoofing from the back when passing play would serve us better and who's squad players tend to be underused.
And Martinez's team haven't displayed many of those weaknesses.
In a perfect world he'd come in and solve our weaknesses without removing our strengths, in the worst case scenario, he'd merely add his own flaws, of terrible defending and lethargic play, to our existing ones.
