Moyes admits desire to manage in Germany

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Exactly..

Wouldnt be the worst thing in the world to happen..

Right now we havent won ANY trophy with him and finish outside of the European spots.. He does well with transfers but thats about it.

and now it starts, he puts himself in the shop window and now suddenly isnt good enough, and cant wait to get rid
 
Existing? he's taken us from relegation fodder to consistently finishing upper reaches of the league, on a budget of £10M net in 10 years.

Trapped in 4 years in the 80's some of our fanbase ffs.

He'sd improved us by about 8-10 league placings on average. No mean feat with no money but hardly the stuff of legend.
 
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He'sd improved us by about 8-10 league placings on average. No mean feat with no money but hardly the stuff of legend.

In an era where cash has been king in the PL, the age of the Billionaire benefactor, I think it's an exceptional record.

Not lifting a pot is obviously disappointing, he's made mistakes in certain cup games & we have come close, but anyone who doesn't consider his time at Goodison a success, is living on another planet to me.
 
The blokes been a success but coming off the back of Walter Smith has done him the world of good, he's been practically untouchable since day one & it's part of the reason why a manager with no tangible success at the top level is amongst the highest earners in World Football.
 
In an era where cash has been king in the PL, the age of the Billionaire benefactor, I think it's an exceptional record.

Not lifting a pot is obviously disappointing, he's made mistakes in certain cup games & we have come close, but anyone who doesn't consider his time at Goodison a success, is living on another planet to me.

He deserves more credit than some give. People talking as though he's in the top echelon of managers are equally deluded IMO.
 
The blokes been a success but coming off the back of Walter Smith has done him the world of good, he's been practically untouchable since day one & it's part of the reason why a manager with no tangible success at the top level is amongst the highest earners in World Football.

That's total nads, as if he'd have bombed in his first season, we'd have gone down. He kept us up & then took us forwards, he's become safe in his role solely down to the level he's taken us to, on the resources available.
 
This is where thinking of us as a big successful club one of the institutions of the footballing world causes grief, because what he's done doesn't fit in with that - existing in the division was the the job of Coventry, Southampton, Charlton, and other non descripts.

We are not a big successful club though and havn't been for 30 years, wake up and face reality.. We are heading constantly in the right direction now though, but only beause Moyes has been building.. strangely it takes longer with no money than it has for the likes of Mourinho, Hughes, Mancini etc but he's been building non the less... and we currently have a very exciting team...
Would of been better but he keeps having to rebuuld when we sell players he wants to keep..
As for the list of clubs.. We were fighting it out with Coventry, Southampton, Charlton and the other non descripts when he came.. that is the scale of the task he faced. We were that poor but whereas their managers were not good enough to do anything about it but slip away in the lower league obscurity.. ours progressed us to the upper tier of the best league in the world with the sort of money reserved for simply trying to survive in the league.
We were massively ****e.. now we are not, and its cost us about 10mil.. That's an acheivement in the English money league.
But its true.. he hasn't won a cup so its all irrelevent.
 
You can be as sarcastic as you like but the question was asked when have we ever looked like winning a trophy? The answer was when we were 1-0 up in the final.
Of course you can dismiss Moyes lack of transfer power and Chelsea's hundreds of millions, the bad luck of losing our best players at the time and just go with sarcasm if it helps you feel better about slating the best thing that has happened to us in a couple of decades if you like. Preternding its all irrelevent doesn't make it so though.

No we didn't. We went 1-0 up and then chased our arses around for 90 minutes. If we'd been 1-0 with half an hour to go, you might say we looked like winning it.
 
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