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Rita_Poon said:
@Spadge Vernacular
You aint judge jury and executioner. Much like your pal in uniform doling out potentially lethal force.
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Medieval mentality very similar to Taliban in mindset, sounds like they have won a fair few over to their way of thinking my bet is they are below five foot nine. Its the only way they can show masculinity is on internet.

JLW said:
Thats the thing mate, in that circumstance i wouldnt be thinking about consequences, it would be carried out on instinct and emotion!
So would justice for you be that the guy who broke into your home was back on the streets within 5-6 hours and hit with a caution.

While you your missus and kids will be having forever sleepless nights about the ordeal.
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Then you end up prison as you go all lord of the flies. Not only depraving your children of a father for a period, they witness you being violent by beating another human to near death. I dont actually believe your or others hyperbole, entertaining as little man syndrome is.
 
NilSatisOptimum said:
Medieval mentality very similar to Taliban in mindset, sounds like they have won a fair few over to their way of thinking my bet is they are below five foot nine. Its the only way they can show masculinity is on internet.


Then you end up prison as you go all lord of the flies. Not only depraving your children of a father for a period, they witness you being violent by beating another human to near death. I dont actually believe your or others hyperbole, entertaining as little man syndrome is.
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No they witness there dad protecting them from scum of the earth!

What would you do if someone smacked you while you was with your wife and kids? Call the police or hit him back?
 
NilSatisOptimum said:
Medieval mentality very similar to Taliban in mindset, sounds like they have won a fair few over to their way of thinking my bet is they are below five foot nine. Its the only way they can show masculinity is on internet.


Then you end up prison as you go all lord of the flies. Not only depraving your children of a father for a period, they witness you being violent by beating another human to near death. I dont actually believe your or others hyperbole, entertaining as little man syndrome is.
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Is this the word going round the allotment?
 
Spadge Vernacular said:
We can all see that if you had a wife, you'd be fine with beating her. Go you.

Hitting a woman is not OK, unless you think it is OK.

If the latter expect men to beat you.
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I generally hold you in high regard on here, but your take on this is one of the worst takes on anything I've seen on this forum, and I've spent a few days in the Arena with Damo.

Opining that a police officer was wrong to stamp on the head of a subdued assailant - however much I can understand the urge to do so - is not akin to wife beating mate.
 
Brett Angell Delight said:
I generally hold you in high regard on here, but your take on this is one of the worst takes on anything I've seen on this forum, and I've spent a few days in the Arena with Damo.

Opining that a police officer was wrong to stamp on the head of a subdued assailant - however much I can understand the urge to do so - is not akin to wife beating mate.
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Disregarding or attempting to trivialise the assault and battery of a woman to suit an agend (pigs et al) doesn't wash with me. As mentioned earlier in our society men should protect women and children, first and foremost, at least that is how I have been brought up.

I'm also keen to see the male officer in questions record. If he has a history of violent behaviour and attacking the public then they should rightly throw the book at him. If he has an exemplary record then I would hope that he will be judged on the merits of this case and the abhorrent attack that he and his colleagues suffered at the hands of those scumbags.

Only a certain type would try and excuse a woman being assaulted or in this instance to make the broken nose secondary to what followed.
 
Spadge Vernacular said:
Disregarding or attempting to trivialise the assault and battery of a woman to suit an agend (pigs et al) doesn't wash with me. As mentioned earlier in our society men should protect women and children, first and foremost, at least that is how I have been brought up.

I'm also keen to see the male officer in questions record. If he has a history of violent behaviour and attacking the public then they should rightly throw the book at him. If he has an exemplary record then I would hope that he will be judged on the merits of this case and the abhorrent attack that he and his colleagues suffered at the hands of those scumbags.

Only a certain type would try and excuse a woman being assaulted or in this instance to make the broken nose secondary to what followed.
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Even if his record was hitherto squeaky clean, THIS is a record of using excessive force and violent behaviour against the public. Again, I can understand the urge, but it’s literally his job to restrain himself in those situations.

Not a soul is excusing the assault of a (female) police officer mate, they’re just pointing out - correctly - that the officer delivering the kick/stamp to an incapacitated assailant went too far and deserves to be punished accordingly. The two POVs aren’t mutually exclusive.
 
Brett Angell Delight said:
Even if his record was hitherto squeaky clean, THIS is a record of using excessive force and violent behaviour against the public. Again, I can understand the urge, but it’s literally his job to restrain himself in those situations.

Not a soul is excusing the assault of a (female) police officer mate, they’re just pointing out - correctly - that the officer delivering the kick/stamp to an incapacitated assailant went too far and deserves to be punished accordingly. The two POVs aren’t mutually exclusive.
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He will be judged on the merits of the case and his record. Kicking out wasn't what you'd expect but as has been pointed out, he had seen a female colleague brutally assaulted, nose broken and bloodied face, received multiple blows to the head from scumbag 1, who initially got the better of him, then to the back of the head from scumbag 2. If it had been in the US both scumbags would have been shot.

I can understand the officer saying that he was disoriented from being repeatedly punched in the face and back of the head, and that he feared his gun had been taken. A sensible investigation will take all of this into account and hid record. But as I say, regardless of a couple of scumbags starting a brawl which they didn't win the worst thing that happened was the savage attack on the woman, and as I say, only a certain type of male would not be outraged at this above all else. I also note that the police who faced the horror incident in Southport are not being called pigs...
 
Spadge Vernacular said:
He will be judged on the merits of the case and his record. Kicking out wasn't what you'd expect but as has been pointed out, he had seen a female colleague brutally assaulted, nose broken and bloodied face, received multiple blows to the head from scumbag 1, who initially got the better of him, then to the back of the head from scumbag 2. If it had been in the US both scumbags would have been shot.

I can understand the officer saying that he was disoriented from being repeatedly punched in the face and back of the head, and that he feared his gun had been taken. A sensible investigation will take all of this into account and hid record. But as I say, regardless of a couple of scumbags starting a brawl which they didn't win the worst thing that happened was the savage attack on the woman, and as I say, only a certain type of male would not be outraged at this above all else. I also note that the police who faced the horror incident in Southport are not being called pigs...
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Alright mate. As stated earlier I generally think you’re sound on here so I’m not gonna get much further into this.

My last word is that you’re not the arbiter of maleness and you don’t get to confer the status based on whether someone prioritises the same aspect of a dreadful situation that you do.

I’d also swerve hand-wringing over an incident in which 2 children lost their lives and 6 more are fighting for theirs.
 
Spadge Vernacular said:
He will be judged on the merits of the case and his record. Kicking out wasn't what you'd expect but as has been pointed out, he had seen a female colleague brutally assaulted, nose broken and bloodied face, received multiple blows to the head from scumbag 1, who initially got the better of him, then to the back of the head from scumbag 2. If it had been in the US both scumbags would have been shot.

I can understand the officer saying that he was disoriented from being repeatedly punched in the face and back of the head, and that he feared his gun had been taken. A sensible investigation will take all of this into account and hid record. But as I say, regardless of a couple of scumbags starting a brawl which they didn't win the worst thing that happened was the savage attack on the woman, and as I say, only a certain type of male would not be outraged at this above all else. I also note that the police who faced the horror incident in Southport are not being called pigs...
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Not the day for this.
 
Rita_Poon said:
Not the day for this.
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Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but at some point when something tragic like this happens you have to acknowledge, despite how uncomfortable it makes you feel, that many police officers are heroes and not pigs as you label them. I say this not to point score, but for you to hopefully have a more open mind about some truly good people out there.
 
Hinchcliffe's Corner said:
Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but at some point when something tragic like this happens you have to acknowledge, despite how uncomfortable it makes you feel, that many police officers are heroes and not pigs as you label them. I say this not to point score, but for you to hopefully have a more open mind about some truly good people out there.
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I will hold my tongue again.
 
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