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[Harryflashman]

Thats the way i look at it mate from the two guys side who decoded to start throwing punches at police officers.

None of this happens if the 2 rats dont resist arrest.

Its a completely different story if the two guys were compliant in the arrest but they werent.

Sorry but one guy might lose his job because of these 2 rats!! Im not having it

That’s my point though fella I don’t think we’re miles apart . You’re right they started it and they should face consequences and if he opens up on them with a flurry of punches , we wouldn’t be here . If he just drops them no issue , the problem is because of the stamp .

Like I’ve said I totally understand why he’s done it , probably a mix of adrenaline, anger maybe even a touch of ptsd in there but all of that is mitigation not justification. If he had his time again you think he’d do it ?

The lads who kicked it off will wish they hadn’t done it , he will I’m sure wish he hadn’t lost his rag but we don’t have do overs. Consequences and most of us have been there just most of us haven’t had to do it with the world watching .

 

[JLW]

You would be languishing in prison depriving your kids of their dad and your partner of their chosen partner along with the boogey man if you could not prove clear self defense. Whilst I can go on providing for my family in whatver job without criminal conviction and having fun fatherly things to do. Just smart i would say... But then I'm known as third bigger Mitchel brother from Liverpool. So good luck to anyone.

Thats the thing mate, in that circumstance i wouldnt be thinking about consequences, it would be carried out on instinct and emotion!
So would justice for you be that the guy who broke into your home was back on the streets within 5-6 hours and hit with a caution.

While you your missus and kids will be having forever sleepless nights about the ordeal.

 

[JLW]

“Tell me someone who wouldn’t” they’re highly trained armed response officers, trained for scenarios far worse than that.

The 2 lads should be charged, as should the police officer.

Agree but not fired

 

[Eidean]

Agree but not fired

You’d have him keep his job as an Armed Response Officer after he’s been charged, for example, with GBH with intent?

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Thats the thing mate, in that circumstance i wouldnt be thinking about consequences, it would be carried out on instinct and emotion!
So would justice for you be that the guy who broke into your home was back on the streets within 5-6 hours and hit with a caution.

While you your missus and kids will be having forever sleepless nights about the ordeal.

And witnessing their father and partner batter boogey man senseless won't effect them. Afraid it will just as much as the boogey man if not more, violence is violence someone loosing control.

Unless you locked them away in said bedroom, in which case you show logic and intent to harm.

Anyway off to ape sanctuary for real. No pun intended just coincidence.

 

[JLW]

You’d have him keep his job as an Armed Response Officer after he’s been charged, for example, with GBH with intent?

Yes! Theres context here, they are human beings..

He/they were attacked first, it was self defence in what could of been an even uglier scene had the gun fell out or been grabbed by one of them during the melee.

Sorry mate we will have agree to disagree on this

 

[Eidean]

Yes! Theres context here, they are human beings..

He/they were attacked first, it was self defence in what could of been an even uglier scene had the gun fell out or been grabbed by one of them during the melee.

Sorry mate we will have agree to disagree on this

It’s not self-defence though, that’s the whole point.

He’s a highly trained armed response officer, trained for far worse scenarios. The moment that lad was tasered & wasn’t moving on the floor, his job was done.

Stamping & booting him in the head has turned from what was self-defence into GBH. He’s let his emotions take over his training & he’ll be punished for it.

 

[PhilEFC]

Thats the thing mate, in that circumstance i wouldnt be thinking about consequences, it would be carried out on instinct and emotion!
So would justice for you be that the guy who broke into your home was back on the streets within 5-6 hours and hit with a caution.

While you your missus and kids will be having forever sleepless nights about the ordeal.

I wouldn’t bother mate.

In that instance you should help them out the house with the telly and make them a packed lunch for their travels.

 

[Charro]

I agree he had lost his head but tell me someone who wouldnt!
Like i say it was probably adrenalin and maybe he shouldnt of done it looking back, but no way he should he be fired because of it.

I’d like to think there’s a lot of people who in that situation wouldn’t wade in with potentially fatal blows to the head.

We should apply the highest of standards to public servants and not expect them to react the same way a member of the public would.

 

[Harryflashman]

I’d like to think there’s a lot of people who in that situation wouldn’t wade in with potentially fatal blows to the head.

We should apply the highest of standards to public servants and not expect them to react the same way a member of the public would.

Let’s be fair , if someone attacks you or your significant other and you defend yourselves knocking the attacker to the floor then stamp on their head as they’re flat out you’re getting nicked .

In this case I’m not even sure the higher standard factor applies .

 

[JLW]

I’d like to think there’s a lot of people who in that situation wouldn’t wade in with potentially fatal blows to the head.

We should apply the highest of standards to public servants and not expect them to react the same way a member of the public would.

Didnt the 2 guys dish out "potentially fatal blows to the head" to 3 officers and one being a woman who nose was broken.

Why does modern day society always get caught up in the reaction of something rather than the action that caused the situation.

 

[Gilbert..]

I’d like to think there’s a lot of people who in that situation wouldn’t wade in with potentially fatal blows to the head.

We should apply the highest of standards to public servants and not expect them to react the same way a member of the public would.

The reason im not in the job. I think he got what he deserved after his actions a few seconds earlier. He clearly wasnt bothered about his potential fatal blows to that womans head.
I get where you are coming from. But the raw side of it is he'll now go full on im the victim here.
We'll end up with a lack of personel wanting to do that job.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Well this thread has cast a light onto a gaggle of tofu eating leafleters, wife beaters and misogynistic simps. Amazing stuff.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Disagree why the officer needs to lose his job, what if they tried and succeeded to grab one of the guns of a police officer that they had punched to the ground. We could be talking about a whole different story now, just because you have a uniform on it doesn't take away human instinct in certain situations.

The fella went to work that day probably not expecting two rats to start punching him and his colleagues, he may have feared for his life and adrenalin has kicked in.

@Goat

 

[cronullasharks]

I wouldn’t bother mate.

In that instance you should help them out the house with the telly and make them a packed lunch for their travels.

What sort of telly you got and what would you dish up for lunch?