message for "indigenous Caucasian" people.

[Bundy]

Black/Minority/Ethnic.

I'm White Minority. We are chokas with Asians these days. 70% of my work colleagues are Idian or some other sort of Asian. But I dont get special privledges.

 

[davek]

Anyone see Question Time last night?

Griffin and his indigenous people who've been here for 17,000 years. Talk about a knuckle dragger unwittingly shooting himself in the hairy foot.

Mind you he did have a point about Jack'the'Lad Straw lecturing him whilst helping orchestrate a war against a civilian population in Iraq. And the Tory on the panel should have been pushed about her party's links with neo-nazis in the European Parliament.

 

[Nebbiolo]

I think the American study was mainly in the Chicago/Detroit area, not sure on the DWP one though.

Having that diversity of opinion is crucial though. There was a telling stat by Dan Pink today.



I'm kinda of the Arsene Wenger school in that I don't really care what colour people are, but you need a diversity of opinion for a healthy company. If everyone thinks the same you get into groupthink, which is far from good.

I'm of a similar opinion. I like to see all sorts of cultures mingling. I really believe it enriches us. The school I'm at at the moment is multi-ethnic, and it's just a nice environment to be in. And people get on, regardless of colour or cultural differences.

 

[Robert Jarvis]

Last night TBH did Griffin few favours, he was shown for what he is and largely his party. Despite his claims does anyone believe his spots ahve changed. But his criticism of Islam are correct especially the treatment of women and there kill philosophy to non muslims which is the Loran.

The person who came off worst was Straw. he was shown up for the lame brain he is. What many on here will not know that Straw depends on the muslim vote to keep him as an MP. The mosques guarantee Straw block votes from their community.

The Tory (who is a muslim woman) and the Lib dem Huhne were the winners on this programme.

 

[Nebbiolo]

I can't believe that Griffin was allowed on QT. It legitimises the BNP. It makes them mainstream. It gives people the idea of voting for them. I'd marginalise them in a second flat if I was the BBC. They're evil, and need to be reduced to ashes.

 

[monty]

I can't believe that Griffin was allowed on QT. It legitimises the BNP. It makes them mainstream. It gives people the idea of voting for them. I'd marginalise them in a second flat if I was the BBC. They're evil, and need to be reduced to ashes.

Exactly Neb, once Hitler was given oxygen he took off, Griffin is dangerous, half turths become distorted, only one way. I love him to wake up black one morning, in a ghetto with the KKK outside

 

[GhostOfDixie]

I can't believe that Griffin was allowed on QT. It legitimises the BNP. It makes them mainstream. It gives people the idea of voting for them. I'd marginalise them in a second flat if I was the BBC. They're evil, and need to be reduced to ashes.

Well they are a legitimate party regardless of how they perform.

The ideology of a british britain is not lost on me obviously, I don't want to see Islamic law being instilled into this country, but the way the BNP operate is like they know what they are, people know what they are, and some opinions get lost in the "your a disgusting bigot" language that is thrown against them,

He actually had a point about Islam (to which the female Islamic woman completely ignored, which makes me wonder if she would like to live in an Islamic state with no rights), but then he spoilt it by saying "If you Stay" - it's not a case of kicking everyone out. They have committed no crimes have they?

It's about careful immigration policy, and monitoring and policing if necessary those who slip under the radar.

He's a racist first and foremost, and a sensible politician last, don't forget he was educated at Cambridge, so he's not a stupid man, he just doesn't put himself or his party in the right light.

 

[BlackToffee]

I'm White Minority. We are chokas with Asians these days. 70% of my work colleagues are Idian or some other sort of Asian. But I dont get special privledges.

What special privileges were you after? first one to roger the sexiest Asian babe First in line for food? Special indigenous meals?

Just wondering likeb)b)

 

[BlackToffee]

Well they are a legitimate party regardless of how they perform.

The ideology of a british britain is not lost on me obviously, I don't want to see Islamic law being instilled into this country, but the way the BNP operate is like they know what they are, people know what they are, and some opinions get lost in the "your a disgusting bigot" language that is thrown against them,

He actually had a point about Islam (to which the female Islamic woman completely ignored, which makes me wonder if she would like to live in an Islamic state with no rights), but then he spoilt it by saying "If you Stay" - it's not a case of kicking everyone out. They have committed no crimes have they?

It's about careful immigration policy, and monitoring and policing if necessary those who slip under the radar.

He's a racist first and foremost, and a sensible politician last, don't forget he was educated at Cambridge, so he's not a stupid man, he just doesn't put himself or his party in the right light.[/QUOTE]

Sort of like, Hitler was a nice man, he just overdid the publicity thing

But of course, we darkies are no longer oppressed so the BNP shouldn't really worry us.

Personally, I'm more than happy to have a debate on this issue, just wanted to get my dig in first.

I'll behave (as best I can) from now on

 

[BlackToffee]

I have to say that Jack Straw started off brilliantly. Then he went downhill. At the one direct question regarding policy he illustrated why the BNP got their vote.

It was mealy mouthed, it was incoherent and even when asked the question again he sought to doge it.

Defender of BME people? An MP who is afraid of women in a veil?

Labour, you're having a laff.

 

[BlackToffee]

Poor bigot Griffin is to complain to the BBC "lynch mob", which I think it was.

BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Griffin complaint over BBC 'mob'

He should be grateful. The BBC have been too clever by half. First the lynch mob, to exercise the ghost of the BNP, and then he will get an "normal" apperance.

The BBC can't pull off this trick twice, they know it, so when questions come up about his future appearance they can say

"Well, we gave people the chance to question his policies / ideology, so now he should be left to appear as a normal guest in future"

If I was Griffin i'd be so grateful to the BBC for shoehorning me into the political mainstream.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

The worrying thing for me is that people take him seriously. The appearing on BBC thing is a red herring. For instance if the Monster Raving Loony Party appeared on Question Time it wouldn't convince people that they're not tools.

But the BNP seem to have support. That's the worrying thing. Appearing on the BBC doesn't make them 'mainstream', it's the fact that they received nearly 200,000 votes in the last election that does that, and it's this fact that scares me, that we have 200,000 people in this country that are foolish enough to vote for them.

 

[gordonjblair]

Poor bigot Griffin is to complain to the BBC "lynch mob", which I think it was.

BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Griffin complaint over BBC 'mob'

it's the first time I've heard a racist bigot complaining about a lynching

 

[gordonjblair]

The worrying thing for me is that people take him seriously. The appearing on BBC thing is a red herring. For instance if the Monster Raving Loony Party appeared on Question Time it wouldn't convince people that they're not tools.

But the BNP seem to have support. That's the worrying thing. Appearing on the BBC doesn't make them 'mainstream', it's the fact that they received nearly 200,000 votes in the last election that does that, and it's this fact that scares me, that we have 200,000 people in this country that are foolish enough to vote for them.

which is why the vote should be means tested.

I don't mean financially, more intellectually. There should be a brief test (nothing too taxing) that people should have to sit before being given the vote to show that they understand at least the general principles of what it is they're voting on.

People who can pass an exam or test which measures their appreciation of social / economic and politic issues should then get the license to vote. You can then be sure that the decision will be an informed one.

It may sound a bit extreme, but if an election is to decide the direction of the entire nation for 5 years, the process should be developed to produce the best possible outcome. That's in everyone's best interests, whether they would be a license holder or not.

Just a thought b)

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

which is why the vote should be means tested.

I don't mean financially, more intellectually. There should be a brief test (nothing too taxing) that people should have to sit before being given the vote to show that they understand at least the general principles of what it is they're voting on.

People who can pass an exam or test which measures their appreciation of social / economic and politic issues should then get the license to vote. You can then be sure that the decision will be an informed one.

It may sound a bit extreme, but if an election is to decide the direction of the entire nation for 5 years, the process should be developed to produce the best possible outcome. That's in everyone's best interests, whether they would be a license holder or not.

Just a thought b)

a bit elitist isn't it, how will they deem who is clever enough to make a decision ?
in a democracy everyone gets to choose, not just those of a certain intellect, the tories would've had this set up to require a grammar school education, leaving those less fortunate (or in their opinion, those who should do more to better themselves) without a vote.
may as well just let the Kent farmers decide.