Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian
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sorry that was meant to say 'stiffing quota'
message for "indigenous Caucasian" people.
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Whitebootman
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I think I'm stuffed. Dad's side is Kirkby, My Mum's side are from the south, there's some travelling stock in the mix, I like pineapple on pizza, and married a Red. I don't think even ukip will have me to be honest.
ChicagoToffee
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A little shocked that there are actually hiring quotas based on ethnicity in England. We can't get that far over here but we've got affirmative action which is a whole 'nuther story.
You would think America would have something closer to a quota system given that my parents (who are 65) grew up with segregation. Our racial misgivings are easily more recent and lingering than yours but don't think we've got the same attitudes on immigrants although that depends on who you talk to.
America is all immigrants - the only indigenous people got boxed up and shipped off to reservations and got free booze and tobacco. Amazingly, Native Americans don't even make it in the "racial" discussions here.
You would think America would have something closer to a quota system given that my parents (who are 65) grew up with segregation. Our racial misgivings are easily more recent and lingering than yours but don't think we've got the same attitudes on immigrants although that depends on who you talk to.
America is all immigrants - the only indigenous people got boxed up and shipped off to reservations and got free booze and tobacco. Amazingly, Native Americans don't even make it in the "racial" discussions here.
Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian
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it's not that we HAVE a quota system, it's that some companies/corporations etc will use a quota system so as to appear to not discriminate, you know the thing.... there are only 4 chinese firefighters in london, do they have something against the chinese in the fire service ? it's to try to avoid those sorts of thing that become a controversy. i made the 4 up btw, but it could well be accurate for all i know.
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Only if they celebrate Black History Month
That might be pushing it a bit.
OK, can I just go in an say "where the white women at?"
StDomingosGringo
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OK, can I just go in an say "where the white women at?"
BT, if you want to, I'll come with and hold them off while you leg it, seriously - who's up for it?
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BT, if you want to, I'll come with and hold them off while you leg it, seriously - who's up for it?
Yeah, suppose so, once they all get to know one of 'em have had me, all the women will want me
Not sure I can fight off the butch one's on me own
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Whitebootman
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The scary thing is that race still plays a huge part in recruitment. I wrote yesterday about a Harvard study that sent off a load of identical job applications, the only change being the name of the applicants. Some had white sounding names, some had black sounding names. The white sounding names had 50% more interview requests than the black sounding ones.
This was reinforced by a similar experiment done by the DWP this year that had similar outcomes. There is an outward dislike of racism amongst most people these days (BNP apart), but folks still tend to stick to their own more often than they should.
This was reinforced by a similar experiment done by the DWP this year that had similar outcomes. There is an outward dislike of racism amongst most people these days (BNP apart), but folks still tend to stick to their own more often than they should.
davek
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Maybe that's a counterpoint to Danny's view on quotas in this thread he'd like to take up? The DWP link is food for thought.
I dont know about 'folks sticking to their own'. It could be that employers in less integrated parts of the country fear upsetting an office dynamic/shopfloor camaraderie. I'd be interested to know the geography of that survey. Interesting also that the public sector comes out with a btter bill of health than private and voluntary recruitment.
I think the American study was mainly in the Chicago/Detroit area, not sure on the DWP one though.
Having that diversity of opinion is crucial though. There was a telling stat by Dan Pink today.
I'm kinda of the Arsene Wenger school in that I don't really care what colour people are, but you need a diversity of opinion for a healthy company. If everyone thinks the same you get into groupthink, which is far from good.
Having that diversity of opinion is crucial though. There was a telling stat by Dan Pink today.
I'm kinda of the Arsene Wenger school in that I don't really care what colour people are, but you need a diversity of opinion for a healthy company. If everyone thinks the same you get into groupthink, which is far from good.
davek
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There's a certain irony in the Melting Pot society having to restate that diversity is a good thing.
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