Martinez Sentiment Poll: In or Out

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

 

[nsno-chris]

He didn't quit Wigan when they list 9-0 at Spurs

Give them credit mate, they did score 1. But what followed sounds familiar at Goodison these days:

we need to ensure that never happens again and get back to the levels which, at times, have been outstanding this season

 

[Tree13]

The only thing I can think is that he didn't think Stones was up to it either physically or mentally and had no-one else.

In fairness Alcaraz wasn't bad in the 2nd half and even in the first half. Alcaraz was awful but Jags, Coleman, Banes and Barry where no better. Their whole team just walked through us or hit it long.

WHAT. ON . EARTH. ARE. YOU. SMOKING?

Alcaraz was DIRECTLY responsible for three goals. Directly his specific fault. For the others you named to have been just as bad, we would have to have conceded twelve more goals. Now I'm not saying that the rest of the defence played well, but Alcaraz stood out by some distinct margin as being utterly, utterly unfit to wear the shirt.

 

[bobafro]

Give them credit mate, they did score 1. But what followed sounds familiar at Goodison these days:

Did he say the defense wasn't at fault when they conceded 9?

 

[nsno-chris]

Its not bobbys fault its the players - the same players who handled the same system with ease last year
Its not bobbys fault that the players have aged - 2 transfer windows pass us by without rectifying this
Its no bobbys fault that players make mistakes - the same players that he sees on daily basis, coaches and gives insructions to along with having the ability to drop these players
Its not bobbys fault that there is a revolt - L O L

Bobby IN

 

[Toffeelover]

The fact that the 'R' word is even contemplated should be enough for him to be shown the door. It's unacceptable to be in this position with the squad at his disposal. Any manager in any other job would have had a 6month review and quit rightly handed their p45 for underperforming and not hitting expected targets.

Two clubs did this and now sit above us.

 

[chicoazul]

Its not bobbys fault its the players - the same players who handled the same system with ease last year
Its not bobbys fault that the players have aged - 2 transfer windows pass us by without rectifying this
Its no bobbys fault that players make mistakes - the same players that he sees on daily basis, coaches and gives insructions to along with having the ability to drop these players
Its not bobbys fault that there is a revolt - L O L

Bobby IN

There's a revolt?

Ace.

straps self in*

 

[blue4eva77]

It could easily be argued that yes, these things are all his fault, as he has knocked all of the confidence that these players had right out of the ball park with his ridiculous organisational plans, which in turn seen a ridiculous reversal of fortunes and thus knocking all of the confidence out of the players.

Confidence is a massive part of a players make up. Once they lose that it can take 50% out of their game.

But as a player at some point you simply have to be accountable for yourself and your own doing. You can only point the finger at others for so long.

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

Nah, it's the best filter we got. This place makes me cringe at being a blue after adverse results. It was never like that on here.

The d-machine is on a noble quest to old skool game the most angry.

If he's so apparent then why do lids fume? Because his corn is just so tasty.

There's an ignore button but lids don't want to click it. He's in their heads.

That made me both...well, do a GUFFAW kinda thing...which was swiftly followed by a strung-out 'Eeeeeeeeeeee'...

 

[Khalekan]

I appreciate you're concerned but are we looking at this as if we are completely screwed? After we played Newcastle there was a new sense of optimism floating around and we sensed it was a game we dominated which we did. We got two wins that week, we lost last night which is majorly disappointing but it happens in football. We win against QPR we are more or less safe. Let's all just get back on the same hymn sheet. Martinez has the right up until christmas, can we all agree?

Not me.

Christmas would be way too late if this malaise carries over into next season.

Give him a go if we must.....but pull the plug no later than Halloween or Bonfire Night if things are heading south.

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

Fair enough... each to their own. I'd rather compete for 4th or 3rd or whatever and earn it than buy it.

Actually what am I on about? All about winning winning winning

No trophy for fourth place! It would be lovely to do it all under a local/supporter chairman, but that just isn't realistic these days.

 

[willo30]

Not me.

Christmas would be way too late if this malaise carries over into next season.

Give him a go if we must.....but pull the plug no later than Halloween or Bonfire Night if things are heading south.

First few games of next season and get rid before the transfer window shuts. We usually do our business late anyway so don't see an issue with this.

I think we will see if things have changed in those few games and preseason.

Even this is pushing it for me as I want him gone before next season.

 

[Toffeelover]

But as a player at some point you simply have to be accountable for yourself and your own doing. You can only point the finger at others for so long.

I have edited your post a little.

But as a manager at some point you simply have to be accountable for yourself and your own doing. You can only point the finger at others for so long

 

[nsno-chris]

There's a revolt?

Ace.

straps self in*

Bobby going to haunt you in your sleep lid; like a sh!t version of the candyman. He's gonna bugger you with his brown shoes

 

[Woolly Blue]

@GrandOldTeam your forum of eight years belongs to the people. It's being nationalised and you can pipe rar down with your gay slip ons OK?

Slip ons aren't gay.