Martinez Sentiment Poll: In or Out

Martinez

  • In

    Votes: 504 46.4%

  • Out

    Votes: 583 53.6%
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“Now is a moment to be disappointed because we felt we could go all the way but looking back we had an incredible, incredible experience and some phenomenal memories and probably that has given us a real insight at what we need to reach and what we have in the squad in order to try to succeed and win titles. I think this experience has been phenomenal”

Deluded and people want to give him more transfer money and keep him till next season. Some of fans who still support him need to have a good look at themselves in the mirror. Titles....I mean Titles ffs.
 
Martinez praises Gibson and Osman for the positive performance against Newcastle and then leaves them on the bench last night. His decision to play Alcaraz was beyond belief. The player is a total liability and always has been. Defensively, last night was remarkably similar to the 4-0 Anfield match and demonstrates, once again, that Martinez hasn't a clue defensively, and doesn't learn from experience.
I'm going to QPR and not looking forward to it, one bit. I'm sure we'll make them look great and help them turn their season around.
Martinez must go now, before it's too late. Joe Royle could be asked to see the season out until the mess can be sorted in the summer.
 
Ashtonian said:
Just as Bale was overated until Real Madrid wanted him.

Believe me mate coleman is worthy of the praise he gets / has gotten. The drop in performance is down to him being poorly managed by his manager and therefore having no clear role other than be a right back.
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Yeah, I'd be sad to see Coleman go

When he plays to his best, he's amazing

I think his problems this season are linked more to the instructions he's being given, as opposed to him being over rated
 
Robocop said:
I don't have the cast iron answer but we must give him the chance he has earned to do it. We got knocked out of Europe by a good opponent, jeez these things happen to every football club. Liverpool went out the champions league without a fight. Why didn't they sack Rodgers then?
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Maybe because he didn't lose in the first round if the FA cup? And didn't lose in the first round of the Carling cup? And, of yah, they aren't fighting off relegation with EIGHT games to go??

Serious question: what other team that had top 4 aspirations WOULDN'T have sacked their manager of they had a season like ours?
 
Khalekan said:
And without the five minutes of Alcarazism the other two goals would have only made it 3-1.

We scored another ergo it would have been 4-4 on aggregate and the away goals would have seen us through.

Of course, things might have panned out differently but that is the maths of the situation, stripped of the Alcaraz factor.

We are comfortably back in the game at 1-1 and then a latter day Glen Keeley stuffs us up.

Completely.
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You can't put everything on alcaraz mate.
The 2 defensive midfielders were playing at centre halves at times,the full backs were exposed time and again and we lacked the mental belief.
Martinez was found out yet again with his aimless tactics and he gave no direction.
Nothing changed at half time ,how can you play for a manager that when things go wrong time and again he leaves it the same
 
Thought that was a good game, thought we could of got something from it, especially with hitting the bar twice and the clear Osman pen.

I'll take that, I supported Moyes for years when y'all moaned every week about winning by one goal and not.. 'going for it'.. well here we are.. 'going for it'... enjoy.

I intend to.. well at least until it ends and someone else a little less daft comes in and plays a nice mixture of attack and defence. In the meantime enjoy watching football where the result could anything from 5-0 defeat to 5-0 win regardless of opponent.
 
TheHumbleEgg said:
Having had the time to reflect via the gift of a quite restless nights kip. I still want him offed. Not 'kneejerk' either, it is a considered opinion...

It's the interviews, they finish me TBH, the constant drone of filthy positivity & wronged logic. A bit of honesty would be nice. And this constant (from some quarters anyway) wibbling stutter '...Oh, but last years record points haul'. Well, and what? As with everything it's about the now innit. You bang on about the past too much, you sound like one of them.

He had it, he's lost it, hugely. He had them, he lost them, hugely. He had a LOT of us...move on.

I repeat...LUKAKU last night, bollocking/sternly 'advising' ROSS as to where the kid should be playing. Others genuinely NOT looking like they've a clue what the plan is. A game of such magnitude, such importance, they should be WELL versed. If the instruction isn't clear it isn't clear because A) It isn't delivered properly or B) The players don't believe in the instruction offered (or the person delivering it).

I've never seen player look so bemused on such a regular basis.

There was a shot of RM las night, can't remember how many down we were, enough to get animated anyway. And he stood, silent, staring, arms folded and you just knew he was thinking 'SH!T, what now?'. The man is footballing one-way street.

The entire season is an utter shambles. Pre-season the same. His misgivings are clear and cannot be missed by any thinking person; his ineptitude, at times, is astonishing. And so much kek-wetting over the NEWCASTLE game. Pffff...THAT was the blip, not the rest of it.

You can't offer excuses, it's there in THIS seasons figures, not LAST seasons.

I'd say the QPR game is pretty well his most important now as EVERTON manager. And I genuinely think he has neither the plums nor savvy to get onto that.

And after all that, he's not goin' anywhere.
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Exactly it's like being in a relationship that gone to [Poor language removed]. You can fight for it but once the magic is gone the reality is that you are probably best splitting up. By staying together any longer you will probably just end up hating each other. It almost never turns around.
 
Allezfan said:
Nah. We've had a top 4 place, a wembly semi final and a european quarter final as prizes to play for (we lost all 3 but we got within a game of playing for them.)

Playing for a 7 point gap from relegation rather than a 4 point one ain't in the same league.
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Point taken....though it should pretty well show whether they're on board with him or not mate.

Not arsed anyway, might take up ping-pong, less stress.
 
Ashtonian said:
I am comparing the two.

one is a fantastic defender turned into midfielder/attacker and the other is a good midfielder turned into a fanastic defender.

Most of what we did well over the past 2 years had coleman at the heart of it and certainly if he was spanish or from south america he would be getting sold for tens of millions. But yeah, i think he is quality and certainly the better full back between him and baines.
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Coleman was an awful midfielder. All fullbacks had to do was drop off him 5 yards and he didn't have the technical ability to beat them.

Which is why he's ultimately not worth 20m.

Again a very good player but 20m is serious money.

Baines was technically a far superior player but since the Utd move didn't happen which meant he's here for the rest of his career his form has dropped considerably. He probably doesn't put the practice in now.
 
Martinez is tactically inept, proven week in, week out, I would go as far to say the players do not understand his philosophy. He has taken some good players and dumbed them down, its sad to see our club managed like this
 
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