Promoted Stones and Barkley and made them regulars.
Barry has been very good since we got bombed out the Europa. He'll be sound next year only playing once a week.
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Promoted Stones and Barkley and made them regulars.
Barry has been very good since we got bombed out the Europa. He'll be sound next year only playing once a week.
Wasn't ageing but it was getting up there, probably an average age of about 27/28 in Moyes' last season, meaning it was about 28/29 when Martinez took over. It was getting up there and Martinez got it down last season but ultimately it went up with the addition of Eto'o.
A top 6 squad isn't the be all either. Should be aiming for a top 4 side, not bobbing along.
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
As I said before, Swansea, Stoke and Southampton all will be finishing above us, all would never be able to spend £28m on a striker.
We are among the Top 20 richest clubs in the world, 8th in this country for turnover. That is despite having Goodison as our stadium and an inept board of directors.
Your last point, you do like him so no matter what he does you will back him. Works both ways that.
tim cahill
Player Valuation: £50m
Of course there was a squad. The age of it wasn't balanced badly either. Barkley and stones didn't appear from nowhere. If he had concerns with the age then he's had 2 years to put that right.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
MY entire argument is based on one single season! Erm, apply that to yourself about this season.
My analysis is based on the two seasons he's had with us. Maybe you should try it and your own viewpoint wouldn't be as jaundiced as it is. You take the rough with the smooth, to do it any other way just makes you look fickle.
It's ridiculous you come out with stuff like Martinez being a"stubborn fraud" and his "continued thrashings"....its fantasy island stuff. What parallel universe is this analysis applicable in? We have a manager in the early years of his career with us and we've finished 5th and 10th, sometimes playing very polished attractive football, sometimes not and with no penetration. That's all you can say about the matter. To take any other viewpoint up on the evidence so far presented just reveals a rabid agenda against the manager from those wanting a change. There are a few of those people knocking about, but thankfully it's a minority and most people have their feet on the ground and are calling this situation as they see it: a work in progress.
Aar_the_Toffees
Player Valuation: £10m
Our record after being knocked out of Europe is:
6-1-2 picking up 19 points in 9 games. That translates to a 2.11 points per game ratio. Course, title winning sides maintain that, don't expect us to. However, i figure we should be aiming for 1.89 points per game ratio- which gets us about 72 points. That should be minimum. Whatever place we come i really don't care- in this season with 72 points we finish 4th or 5th, maybe even third. We should be aiming to do better than Moyes average position of 7th, not trying to achieve it.
I lost my faith in him. But he's slowly rebuilding it- this run of form has seen us play brilliant football (minus Villa). I expect us to achieve great heights next season. Come on Roberto, you were Chosen.
Titus Bramble
Best centre half to grace the Premier League
Imo the aim for a league season is to average winning all of your home games and at least drawing your aways which equates to 2 points per game. I don't think we can/will manage that, but if we can get close to that we'll be at least pushing the top 4.
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
If you noticed I said his Premier League career, he managed to make Wigan worse year on year. He never once addressed their defensive woes, that's funny as well, hasn't that been one of our weaknesses this season?
We haven't finished 10th yet, West Ham better our score by a single goal on the weekend and we're resigned to the bottom half. That doesn't make it a victory if we managed to scrape 10th either, it is complete under performance no matter how you try and spin it.
I'd love to know how you know the ones who want him out are in a minority. Plenty I know seem to have had enough, matches them boos we have been hearing at Goodison Park for most of the season. For the sake of this thread, direct your attention to the poll at the top.
Lowste
Player Valuation: £30m
They have spent money, make no bones of that and most probably more than us.
As for this rich list, dear me you believe we are in the top 20 of rich clubs, if so the board can't be inept.....surely
As for backing him, I will back him in the same way I backed Moyes. I give every manager time and patience, as for me it is the only way
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
We have spent more money and pay bigger wages, especially in the last few transfer windows.
The board have been helped massively by the influx of money coming from TV revenues, nothing off their own back.
Good for you, let's never criticise anyone.
Lowste
Player Valuation: £30m
I think Southampton spent 140ml over the last 3 seasons, I think we have spent around 80 ml
Also I agree over the influx of the TV money, but you were talking as a club and it wasn't a board question
I will criticise any manager when they deserve criticism, but i won't criticise just because I don't like them.
Just read the last comment and let it sink in
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
You don't think Martinez is deserving of criticism?
I'm absolutely sick of the sight and sound of this tit to be honest, he might still turn it round, who cares anymore, he just bores me
I think the thing that turns fans off him the most is his outright lying. We all know he doesn't really believe the crap he says to the media, so it comes across as treating the fans with contempt.
People say "oh, why do you care anywhere, press conferences mean nothing" etc. - but we're fans, we're supposed to care about what the club says and does. Having a manager offer up verbal diarrhoea like a kopite every single week is irritating.
bluemangroup
Player Valuation: £70m
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