Martinez Sentiment Poll: In or Out

[Kieno]

fed up with these polls. no matter what we know martinez will not get the sack. the first season he came to us and did something revolutionary and built up our expectations, barkley was a class player, coleman was class, McCarthy solid, Jags and Stones developing a brilliant partnership. This season has been the stark contrast (albeit in Europa) and i honestly think its all down to the 6-3 thumping we got at the start of the season by chelsea, our nerves where built up due to the fans expectations (which we should all have) and then our confidence ruined by that. Moyes stayed how long and never got us a cup run like we've had this year. Us Evertonians deserve better, but i believe martinez does hold the key to it, he got us Lukaku in, and hes been incredible, i personally rate the guy so highly, and he's building a team around the youngsters such as barkley, stones, lukaku, coleman and we need to respect it. With our league form did we really expect to thrash wolfsburg and get to the last 16 of Europa?! We deserved to go all the way, but sadly its not to be and that in a strange way is why we all love football. We will stick we Martinez, but he needs to learn to play to our strengths, i really do question his tactics sometimes, but he's the manager for a reason and we should give him the confidence he deserves yes he's had a bad season, a lot of our players have had second season syndrome. But this season is almost up thank god, we wont go down, we will get 3 points against QPR, and its on to the next season, keep the players we need such as rom, barkley, mccarthy, i dont mind mirallas leaving i personally think he's a cause of this rot, and start fresh next season.

Stay humble Evertonians.
Keep the faith.

We had already conceded 4 goals in the first 2 games before we played Chelsea - including 2 in the last 7 minutes against Arsenal.

We effectively conceded 4 goals in 10 minutes!

 

[Hellerad]

"Phenomenal Memories"

 

[daza_1973]

There we go. That's the ultimate post in the thread.

And oh my God that mural...

Don't mention the mural - the proverbial Albatross around his Catalonian neck

 

[EFCPaul]

I'm not ...Osmans been finished for 3 years...the odd decent game aint shifting me.

People were up his arse last Saturday after he won a penalty, go and read his thread! His defenders who come out in force then go into hiding again every time he does something even half decent knock me sick.

 

[polish]

Not the managers fault that individuals can not perform basic defensive tasks

So why do we even need a manager? He picks the squad, he teaches them his "philosophy". Just go and read how Guardiola taugth Javi Martinez how he needs to position himself, how to put a tackle etc. That's his job and he's responsible - saying it's not his fault is ridiculous.

 

[Lukaku'sLeftTesticle]

It's a mix of both probably mate. Coleman and Jagielka are both fit and they struggled today along with the rest of the back four

Fair enough but all through this season every player from Coleman to Lukaku, Baines to Jagielka have taken flak for poor form. I maintain that our players are performing poorly due to training and tactics which Martinez the manager dictates . I think anyone who disagrees and says they are not performing its their fault is crazy or ignorant to what is actually going on in the pitch tactically

 

[meagher94]

IN, sacking him now would be an absolute disaster. At this point we'd be more likely to go down if we sacked him in my opinion.

Also, I've said so many times this season that I want to see him given another crack and a fresh start next season. So changing that view now would be a bit stupid.

He is on extremely thin ice if he is indeed here next season though. We need to have a massive summer where he gets all of his decisions spot on, he needs to show an iron fist.

Then I'd give him 5 games max next season. If there isn't massive improvement, then I'd sack him.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

He never EVER take responsibility does he?

Of course not

How's he going to get a decent job elsewhere if any of this is his fault?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

But you have to agree there is something there. Some seeds of building something.

Last season was the benchmark that went beyond Moyes in terms of style and points total.

Ultimately.

He finished 5th.

Moyes achieved that, and more, with lesser players.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[ijjysmith]

Of course not

How's he going to get a decent job elsewhere if any of this is his fault?

He doesn't deserve a decent job anywhere.

 

[Efc 9911]

IN, sacking him now would be an absolute disaster. At this point we'd be more likely to go down if we sacked him in my opinion.

Also, I've said so many times this season that I want to see him given another crack and a fresh start next season. So changing that view now would be a bit stupid.

He is on extremely thin ice if he is indeed here next season though. We need to have a massive summer where he gets all of his decisions spot on, he needs to show an iron fist.

Then I'd give him 5 games max next season. If there isn't massive improvement, then I'd sack him.

Disaster? Could it get much worse?

 

[Jib in lad]

Hmm.

Kinda see what he means, but then again, 5 goals conceded. And only 1 was "phenonmenal"

Excuse my spelling

They scored two crackers mate.

 

[marty mcfly]

Well you know.

What has to happen before you admit you are wrong?

You spent all summer bemoaning the fact he had not bought defenders and bolstered the defence. Since then his management of said defence has been appalling.

The team have crumbled from the back as a result and he has done nothing to change it.

The players had to ask him to mix it up a bit.

The man is basically blind to everything in front of him.

He dropped Besic and Robles for no reason whatsoever for players who weren't performing as well as they were.

I really wish it wasn't the case. I even until tonight was thinking give him until October. Don't think I can see any change as he is too stubborn and his team selection now for a whole season has been questionable.

I have maybe softened a little. If he drops Barry from now until the end of the season I would give him the summer but I suspect he won't.

 

[EdwardMoore]

But you have to agree there is something there. Some seeds of building something.

Last season was the benchmark that went beyond Moyes in terms of style and points total.

His signings by and large have been a massive success. Besic, McCarthy, Lukaku, Barry.

He broke Barkley and Stones into the team and gave them responsibility. He's also gave Garbutt and Browning game time.

Hes got young gifted players as a spine of his team that need time.

We won home and away against one of the top sides in Europe against Wolfsburg.

He took risks and brought in named players to try and help the team like Eto'o and Lennon, rather than play it safe.

When we've been accused of not being able to defend, we've put defensive displays in.

When we've been accused of not changing tactics, we have.

Yes, I totally agree with people wanting him out. But there is something there.

Now, we either stick or twist. I don't want is being a club who rotate a manager every year personally.

spot on.