Current Affairs London Protests

[Toast]

I hope @roydo isn't getting involved.

 

[coollino]

It's ridiculous.

Why? It's not harmed anyone.

 

[Connor]

Why would anyone get wound up about a statue of a slave trader being taken down?

From what I've read, people have been trying to get rid of stuff like that in Bristol for sometime. A hall or something that is named after him is currently in the process of changing it.

We should still teach this stuff in school, we can't rewrite history. But statues are meant for folk who are meant to be recognised in a good light. Slavers aren't that.

 

[Connor]

I hope @roydo isn't getting involved.

Heard he set up the first rope

 

[LostLegend]

Basically "kill all the black people you want, but don't dare touch our statues"

The gammon brigade are nearing their final form here.

 

[roydo]

I hope @roydo isn't getting involved.

Nah. Trying to work out who the statue was of that they lobbed in the docks. It wasnt the one that was pulled down, thats for sure, and I think its a relatively new one. So probably wasnt one of Colston.

The only one I can think of is one of John Cabot, who discovered Merica, and was just a navigator.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

It's ridiculous.

Sadly all this will cause is further violence and racism.

The police had the chance to nip it in the bud early doors but were terrified of upsetting the do gooders had they waded in on the minority of trouble causers.

 

[roydo]

From what I've read, people have been trying to get rid of stuff like that in Bristol for sometime. A hall or something that is named after him is currently in the process of changing it.

We should still teach this stuff in school, we can't rewrite history. But statues are meant for folk who are meant to be recognised in a good light. Slavers aren't that.

Yeah, it flares up every now and then, but most dont get that worked up. It happened, it isnt celebrated, and Bristolians are not slow in pointing out that the City was the cradle of the abolition movement.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Why? It's not harmed anyone.

You do realise that the Nazis tried erasing history by burning books, wiping out history etc.

History serves a big purpose and not just the history that you personally agree with.

 

[Toast]

Nah. Trying to work out who the statue was of that they lobbed in the docks. It wasnt the one that was pulled down, thats for sure, and I think its a relatively new one. So probably wasnt one of Colston.

The only one I can think of is one of John Cabot, who discovered Merica, and was just a navigator.

So they have pulled down the wrong statue ?
Lol.

 

[coollino]

You do realise that the Nazis tried erasing history by burning books, wiping out history etc.

History serves a big purpose and not just the history that you personally agree with.

Getting rid of a statue, which celebrates individuals, isn't erasing history.

 

[ChesterBlue]

No mate, you’re shutting down debate because what you’re talking about is indefensible.

You’ve said that it’s okay for BAME to be racist because whites, as a generalised race, have used privilege over generations to retain control.

I’m struggling to reconcile how the use of a generalised view of a race (whites have control over BAME) is any different to any other generalised view of a race (blacks are more likely to commit a crime) and how, if Racism is to be overcome that the former is any more acceptable than the latter.

Are there examples of WP? Yes. But using it as an excuse for Racist behaviour is incredibly stupid.

Whatever mate.

 

[roydo]

So they have pulled down the wrong statue ?
Lol.

The first one was deffo Edward Colston. But the one by the docks I am not sure about.

 

[tsubaki]

Basically "kill all the black people you want, but don't dare touch our statues"

The gammon brigade are nearing their final form here.

Gammon? Surely you mean Team Tommy?

 

[Toast]

Can see a few street signs etc going missing in Liverpool tonight.