Current Affairs London Protests

[dead_soft]

I don't know if you are from Liverpool yourself - but if you are im shocked you haven't had thousands of folk sing feed the scousers and sign on to you at the matches

I've had a drunken lad in leeds have a pop on a night out years ago because he heard I had a scouse accent

I've been on a train from Birmingham and heard two blokes infront say they hate scouse and manc b******s.

If you haven't stepped out of your house recently you may not have realised some idiots just like to use any excuse to attack someone- be it there skin colour, accent, nationallity, sexual orientation, hair colour, body size.

Do I think most educated employers give a toss about any of those things providing you make them money? Nope

People like Sol Campbell just play the race card when it is not needed - I guarantee if he applied for League 2 / conference side clubs he would get a job but he in the past has gunned for Premier League / Championship jobs with little to no experience and complains when he is turned down that its because he is black.

The fact Chris Hughton gets numerous jobs in this country shows out his excuses as largely rubbish imo.

worth linking to this considering your comments on Hughton. Maybe he can help you see this differently https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...otests-wondering-if-it-will-change-things-yes

 

[dead_soft]

What Is it with London moaning about everything. We don’t like this or that statue...guess what guys, outside of the cities, apart from a monument to those that died In WW1 & WW2 we don’t have any monuments. None. And away from the Port cities of London, Bristol and Liverpool, the only slavery that existed in this country was white slavery in the countryside and factories.

The vast majority of the people of this country have absolutely no link to slave trading or any form of racism. Their ancestors worked hard in the fields or factories for their masters. So why should anyone, whose family have had nothing to do with slavery or racism be called to account now. Just being British and white isn’t an answer, that’s just another form of racist attack. This is why ordinary people get upset.

So come on, hands up, just who on here has an ancestor who was engaged in the slave trade, who on here has been engaged in racism, because if you haven’t, either directly or through lineage, then why feel any guilt. You have done nothing wrong so why the hell are you getting the blame.

If our middle class millennials (of any colour), elite Liberals, ‘Celebrities’ or Politicians wish to engage in virtue signalling, then let them, but the majority of the rest of the population have absolutely nothing to do with this apart from paying a price to indulge these protesters...

for a man who repeatedly goes on about ‘snowflakes’ you’re seeming awfully worked up about some statues of slave owners.

You seem a lot more fussed about imagined slights on you that you do with any actual issues of racism or inequality.

Also a very odd suggestion that the country is divided in to cities/towns and everything else. The financial capital and the economy of an area Doesn’t stop at its border

 

[Yid4life]

Just seen some fella on GMB comparing Churchill to Hitler.

That'll inflame things nicely for Saturday.

 

[Billy Dean]

Just seen some fella on GMB comparing Churchill to Hitler.

That'll inflame things nicely for Saturday.

He does sort of have a point though TBF

 

[Yid4life]

He does sort of have a point though TBF

Not getting into that.

We will have to agree to disagree.

 

[ramacca]

Is there any surprise that there's been a reaction over racism in the UK, when the anti foreigner xenophobic and nationalistic rhetoric has been ramped up incessantly since the Brexit referendum was announced. The 'Foreigners not welcome' hostile environment, resulting in Windrush black UK citizens being 'sent back', has been a constant visible tool to make BAME and other non British people feel not welcome. It's not surprising LBC's Nick Ferrari says to a black woman 'if you don't like it here go home'.

Anger and calls for LBC/Sky’s Nick Ferrari to be sacked after presenter asks black British colleague, “Why do you stay in this country?” #BlackLivesMatter

Or in Hoddesdon, Hertforshire

Black Lives Matter: Shocking video shows group shouting 'go ...
www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk › ... › Hertfordshire News

As with other times in British history, right wing reaction will be met with a response like Cable Street, Lewisham, Southall, and Liverpool etc. and the other hundreds of times the British people have stood up against xenophobic nationalism and racism. Long may this tradition continue.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

He does sort of have a point though TBF

Was it about the Bengali famine? Things happen in war ,however, his comments to justify his actions, well abhorrent. Even back then considering what we were fighting against.

Winston Churchill killed as many as the worst genocidal dictators of the 20th century, says Indian politician

'This is a man the British would have us hail as an apostle of freedom and democracy,' says author

www.independent.co.uk

 

[mill]

worth linking to this considering your comments on Hughton. Maybe he can help you see this differently https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...otests-wondering-if-it-will-change-things-yes

This is the key I’ve realised as I’ve got older and become more aware of the issue.

It’s not enough to be non-racist – be actively anti-racist.’

 

[mill]

Is there any surprise that there's been a reaction over racism in the UK, when the anti foreigner xenophobic and nationalistic rhetoric has been ramped up incessantly since the Brexit referendum was announced. The 'Foreigners not welcome' hostile environment, resulting in Windrush black UK citizens being 'sent back', has been a constant visible tool to make BAME and other non British people feel not welcome. It's not surprising LBC's Nick Ferrari says to a black woman 'if you don't like it here go home'.

Anger and calls for LBC/Sky’s Nick Ferrari to be sacked after presenter asks black British colleague, “Why do you stay in this country?” #BlackLivesMatter

Or in Hoddesdon, Hertforshire

Black Lives Matter: Shocking video shows group shouting 'go ...
www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk › ... › Hertfordshire News

As with other times in British history, right wing reaction will be met with a response like Cable Street, Lewisham, Southall, and Liverpool etc. and the other hundreds of times the British people have stood up against xenophobic nationalism and racism. Long may this tradition continue.

What does me head in is the whole ‘why do you stay here if you don’t like it’.

like you can’t have a negative opinion on the place if you live here. Why?

 

[Harryflashman]

Is there any surprise that there's been a reaction over racism in the UK, when the anti foreigner xenophobic and nationalistic rhetoric has been ramped up incessantly since the Brexit referendum was announced. The 'Foreigners not welcome' hostile environment, resulting in Windrush black UK citizens being 'sent back', has been a constant visible tool to make BAME and other non British people feel not welcome. It's not surprising LBC's Nick Ferrari says to a black woman 'if you don't like it here go home'.

Anger and calls for LBC/Sky’s Nick Ferrari to be sacked after presenter asks black British colleague, “Why do you stay in this country?” #BlackLivesMatter

Or in Hoddesdon, Hertforshire

Black Lives Matter: Shocking video shows group shouting 'go ...
www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk › ... › Hertfordshire News

As with other times in British history, right wing reaction will be met with a response like Cable Street, Lewisham, Southall, and Liverpool etc. and the other hundreds of times the British people have stood up against xenophobic nationalism and racism. Long may this tradition continue.

He’s not a stupid man he must see the loaded nature of Using the phrase “ if you don’t like it here why do you stay in this country “ In these circumstances.

 

[peteblue]

for a man who repeatedly goes on about ‘snowflakes’ you’re seeming awfully worked up about some statues of slave owners.

You seem a lot more fussed about imagined slights on you that you do with any actual issues of racism or inequality.

Also a very odd suggestion that the country is divided in to cities/towns and everything else. The financial capital and the economy of an area Doesn’t stop at its border

I don’t really care what you do with the statues wherever you live. I think it’s cultural vandalism, but if you want to remove them fine, but what next, history books ? What has happened has happened.

The vast majority of people in this country do not have a racist thought in their heads. People are People, lots of colours, shapes, sounds and sizes. We just are what we are. If someone is being treated badly in work, in life or even on the Internet, there are mountains of legal legislation that can be utilised to put a stop to it. Meanwhile people like myself and my friends, who have effectively been locked up for three months, look at these protests and see hoards of white people ignoring social distancing so that they can show their anger on behalf of black people...and then trash National Monuments celebrating our dead and the man who led the country through a world war for good measure. You do not get meaningful change by poking people in the eye. The protests would carry far more weight and get the message across if done in a solemn manner, by the people really affected, and not the liberal whites and trouble makers.

Like it or not but the country is divided by cities/towns. Just look at any set of GE results. Politically cities are broadly Labour and the country is mostly Conservative. People also behave differently and have a different attitude to what is really important in life. There are differences between people of different colours, religion, accent, political beliefs, historical nationalities, football loyalty......the list goes on.

But some things unite us, all of us, and for that I am thankful......

 

[Harryflashman]

What does me head in is the whole ‘why do you stay here if you don’t like it’.

like you can’t have a negative opinion on the place if you live here. Why?

Im Paraphrasing someone but said the other day in a thread The other day if you don’t like sigurdsson and didn’t like allardyche why not stop supporting Everton .

 

[davek]

Is there any surprise that there's been a reaction over racism in the UK, when the anti foreigner xenophobic and nationalistic rhetoric has been ramped up incessantly since the Brexit referendum was announced. The 'Foreigners not welcome' hostile environment, resulting in Windrush black UK citizens being 'sent back', has been a constant visible tool to make BAME and other non British people feel not welcome. It's not surprising LBC's Nick Ferrari says to a black woman 'if you don't like it here go home'.

Anger and calls for LBC/Sky’s Nick Ferrari to be sacked after presenter asks black British colleague, “Why do you stay in this country?” #BlackLivesMatter

Or in Hoddesdon, Hertforshire

Black Lives Matter: Shocking video shows group shouting 'go ...
www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk › ... › Hertfordshire News

As with other times in British history, right wing reaction will be met with a response like Cable Street, Lewisham, Southall, and Liverpool etc. and the other hundreds of times the British people have stood up against xenophobic nationalism and racism. Long may this tradition continue.

Ferrari? He sounds suspsiciously Italian. Maybe he should be sent back too?

 

[ramacca]

What does me head in is the whole ‘why do you stay here if you don’t like it’.

like you can’t have a negative opinion on the place if you live here. Why?

Maybe British 'exceptionalism' or the constant thing Johnson and the others say about 'world beating' this or that and 'proud' of this and that (even though everyone else knows they're crap). The moment there's an admittance a country has problems is the moment you have to deal with them. So 'put the great back into Britain' becomes the rallying cry for xenophobia and nationalism.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

The vast majority of people in this country do not have a racist thought in their heads. People are People, lots of colours, shapes, sounds and sizes. We just are what we are. If someone is being treated badly in work, in life or even on the Internet, there are mountains of legal legislation that can be utilised to put a stop to it. Meanwhile people like myself and my friends, who have effectively been locked up for three months, look at these protests and see hoards of white people ignoring social distancing so that they can show their anger on behalf of black people...and then trash National Monuments celebrating our dead and the man who led the country through a world war for good measure. You do not get meaningful change by poking people in the eye. The protests would carry far more weight and get the message across if done in a solemn manner, by the people really affected, and not the liberal whites and trouble makers.

If racism, and particular systemic racism, isn't an issue then why are black communities across the world so angry?

As to the bit I highlighted, you might want to take a look through history.