Current Affairs London Protests

[Billy Dean]

I’m really on two minds on it. I hate violence and vandalism and anything like that.

but I can’t stop thinking of the MLK quote:

‘a riot is the language of the unheard’

If the voice is unheard countless times again and again at what point do you just went to [Poor language removed] sh*t up.

I find it hard to condone but not too hard to understand.

if that makes sense.

I agree. With the below tweet also.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I've not seen the George Floyd thread so I must have the creator on ignore. However I have seen the video of his death, no murder, and I was shocked and deeply saddened by it. The officers concerned need locking up for life. I think I have put something similar in this thread before but I'm not spending time digging it out just to please you.

I've put nothing adverse in this thread regarding the UK police as I don't think they've done anything wrong since this started. That's not to say that there isn't a history of police prejudice against black people in the U.K.

Think they will be?

Let me remind you, this was their intro press release:

 

[Barnfred 55]

Think they will be?

Let me remind you, this was their intro press release:

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I think they will be yes. I certainly hope they will anyway.

But you never know with the US justice system.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I think they will be yes. I certainly hope they will anyway.

But you never know with the US justice system.

Think they would be convicted in the UK?

 

[Barnfred 55]

Think they would be convicted in the UK?

I'm sure they would. Just on the video evidence alone.

Where are you going with this?

 

[Charro]

As I mentioned to Mills, I believe the UK to have been a very racist country in all areas of society but speaking as someone under 30 who has mates who are young BAME they dont seem to have experienced the sort of discrimination you hear of older BAME people having had faced. One of my best mates is black and he is high up in a construction company and had the same upbringing as me and as far as I can remember he was a popular lad in school and never had any issues with racism from others.

Maybe in the South/london it may be a different culture I dont know, but I imagine what alot of BAME people feel is discrimination (poverty, lack of opportunity) isnt that far away from what a working class white person experiences growing up in the industrual wastelands of the north.

People can only be oppressed by those with the means to oppress - but the elite in the left/right media distort that to suit their own agendas.

The left media will tell the poor BAME that the reason they are in their position is down to racist whites whilst the right media will tell the poor whites that the reason is down to foreigners stealing their jobs and houses.

BAME were oppressed during the years of Empire but so were whites - during the industrial revolution millions of poor whites worked long hard hours in the mills/factories living in squalor with their children often beaten by the mill supervisors/owners

Poverty and oppression is colour blind and until the majority wake up and realise they are all the same and are being oppressed by the same elite who pit them off against one another will be the day that things could finally change.

“One of my best mates is black”

Come on fella. You’re coming across dreadfully here.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

“One of my best mates is black”

Come on fella. You’re coming across dreadfully here.

Not at all - you are just blinded by your far left viewpoint. Why is me having a black mate invalidate my view on the subject? Is he not black enough for you?

Nothing I can say on here will change your opinions so lets leave it at that before you inevitably call me a racist or some other common insult because I dont agree with your views on our country.

An opinion is like an arsehole - we all have one.

 

[Yid4life]

which one are you mate??

I'm the fiddler on the roof mate.

 

[Yid4life]

Yeah sorry, I think the similar accent had me confused.

Everyone under 30 in London speaks Jafaican these days.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I'm sure they would. Just on the video evidence alone.

Where are you going with this?

Where I'm going is that the evidence of conviction for the police for this type of unnecessary force has an incredibly poor track record of conviction in America and even worse in the UK:

In Britain, we have our George Floyds too

From Gareth Myatt to Jimmy Mubenga to Rashan Charles – the UK Black Lives Matter protests recall injustices closer to home.

www.newstatesman.com

Police officers face no charges over man left in vegetative state

Julian Cole suffered a severed spinal cord after being arrested on a night out in Bedford in 2013, but CPS failed to find evidence against officers involved

amp.theguardian.com

Blame the Home Office if another black person dies in police custody | Stafford Scott

Amber Rudd should be holding the police to account instead of covering their backs by not releasing this critical report, says racial equality consultant Stafford Scott

amp.theguardian.com

Those defending the police are very quick to jump on any instance of harm to the police, but here is a tweet from the police firearms association tweeting this at a time when, in spite of one part of the police praising largely peaceful protests, others are looking for violence against the police as justified as violence against protestors.

The pictures are from a 4 year period rather than the weekend, and is completely irresponsible from an organisation trusted to represent UK firearms officers. Who is ramping up violence?

 

[Hickson9]

Not at all - you are just blinded by your far left viewpoint. Why is me having a black mate invalidate my view on the subject? Is he not black enough for you?

Nothing I can say on here will change your opinions so lets leave it at that before you inevitably call me a racist or some other common insult because I dont agree with your views on our country.

An opinion is like an arsehole - we all have one.

You come across as rather fragile, bitter and angry.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

You come across as rather fragile, bitter and angry.

Pot kettle lol

Im not the one whinging how bad the country is whilst jizzing my knickers because some thugs are smashing innocent peoples property and lobbing statues in the river in the name of "rEvOlUtIoN"

No doubt you'll be crying at the far right morons doing the exact same thing as your heroes on the weekend...

 

[Barnfred 55]

Where I'm going is that the evidence of conviction for the police for this type of unnecessary force has an incredibly poor track record of conviction in America and even worse in the UK:

In Britain, we have our George Floyds too

From Gareth Myatt to Jimmy Mubenga to Rashan Charles – the UK Black Lives Matter protests recall injustices closer to home.

www.newstatesman.com

Police officers face no charges over man left in vegetative state

Julian Cole suffered a severed spinal cord after being arrested on a night out in Bedford in 2013, but CPS failed to find evidence against officers involved

amp.theguardian.com

Blame the Home Office if another black person dies in police custody | Stafford Scott

Amber Rudd should be holding the police to account instead of covering their backs by not releasing this critical report, says racial equality consultant Stafford Scott

amp.theguardian.com

Those defending the police are very quick to jump on any instance of harm to the police, but here is a tweet from the police firearms association tweeting this at a time when, in spite of one part of the police praising largely peaceful protests, others are looking for violence against the police as justified as violence against protestors.

The pictures are from a 4 year period rather than the weekend, and is completely irresponsible from an organisation trusted to represent UK firearms officers. Who is ramping up violence?

had you asked me whether black people had died at the hands of UK policemen without them being charged, I would have said I don't know but most probably. But you never asked me that question. You asked me if I believe that George Floyds murderers would be convicted in the UK and I said certainly yes. And I still believe that. The video evidence alone, AS I POINTED OUT, is sufficient evidence to secure their convictions. In my Opinion.

I'm not going to argue with you any more about this. I'm worn out. Pick on somebody else to annoy

 

[Jebus_lives]

had you asked me whether black people had died at the hands of UK policemen without them being charged, I would have said I don't know but most probably. But you never asked me that question. You asked me if I believe that George Floyds murderers would be convicted in the UK and I said certainly yes. And I still believe that. The video evidence alone, AS I POINTED OUT, is sufficient evidence to secure their convictions. In my Opinion.

I'm not going to argue with you any more about this. I'm worn out. Pick on somebody else to annoy

Just like one black person speaks for all black people.

One person trying to burn a flag is all BLM.

This was the first post you replied to which has led us to this one. I'm not picking on you to annoy you, I'm replying to your post (which I know has irritated you in the past when I haven't). I suggest if you don't want to discuss it with me, don't reply to my posts with questions.

 

[Barnfred 55]

This was the first post you replied to which has led us to this one. I'm not picking on you to annoy you, I'm replying to your post (which I know has irritated you in the past when I haven't). I suggest if you don't want to discuss it with me, don't reply to my posts with questions.

You know I might just take you up on that.