Current Affairs London Protests

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Joey Barton stabbed someone in the eye with a lit cigar, fought in streets, argues with people on twitter, amongst other things. Got his first job much easier than Campbell. And Campbell's playing career was 1000x better than Barton's. Barton got a job at a well-resourced aspirational League 1 team and Campbell had to start with literally the worst club in the league.
Barton had retired the end of the season before he got the job and was mates with the chairman, he still had a lot of the shine of having been a big name player (ish) and had relationships that made it easier for him.

As others have said, Campbell is probably one of the worst examples going, he’d retired from the game and drifted off elsewhere before he came back so lost a lot of that shine of having been a good player.
 
Who ever said it's an evil plot? It seems clear you haven't really paid attention to much of what is being said by BLM and other groups regarding race in 21st Century Britain - it's not the old style 'no blacks, no dogs' stuff - it's a lack of opportunity, a lack of representation, amongst many other things.

You have literally said 'I don't know the ins and outs' but then in the same sentence tried to make a call based on that lack of knowledge.


are a couple of decent places to find more
Who ever said it's an evil plot? It seems clear you haven't really paid attention to much of what is being said by BLM and other groups regarding race in 21st Century Britain - it's not the old style 'no blacks, no dogs' stuff - it's a lack of opportunity, a lack of representation, amongst many other things.

You have literally said 'I don't know the ins and outs' but then in the same sentence tried to make a call based on that lack of knowledge.


are a couple of decent places to find more

"A survey for the Guardian of 1,000 people from minority ethnic backgrounds found they were consistently more likely to have faced negative everyday experiences – all frequently associated with racism – than white people in a comparison poll.

The survey found that 43% of those from a minority ethnic background had been overlooked for a work promotion in a way that felt unfair in the last five years – more than twice the proportion of white people (18%) who reported the same experience."


So basically the study finds that those from BAME background felt more aggrieved that they didnt get a promotion compared to white counterparts who didnt get a promotion.

I dont know how that shows racism - maybe as I pointed out earlier if you are constantly told since you were young that you will be prejudiced against because you are BAME makes these people feel everytime something doesn't go there way that its down to it being about race, whereas their white counterpart may just shrug their shoulders and put it down to bad luck or someone else done better on the day.

Im not saying racism doesnt go on but thats just evidence based on how someone feels not actual proof that those BAME were overlooked for promotion because they were not white.

In regards to Sol Campbell - he's claimed the reason why he hasnt gotten managers jobs in the past is because he's black but how does he know thats the reason? Especially when the likes of Hughton, Moore, Henry, Ince etc. Havent had an issue with this.
 
Oh I'm not arguing at all.
Paul Ince will pipe up next, another crap black manager, even Thierry Henry was awful as a manager.
It's not racist to say this surely ?


:eek: You massive racist you...nah you are not really, they were really bad managers. But let's have more in high level jobs even though they might not have worked up through the ranks to earn a shot or something.
 
No I’m begging you to spell this out because you’re so intelligent and know what others are thinking.

If you’re going to call me a racist at least have the bollocks to do so.
You asked me what my view was on the motives of those in that video trying to retrieve a statue from the briny, what’s that got to do with you being racist or not? You seem to have made a somewhat strange correlation there lad. Maybe your ‘first instinct’ has lead you up the garden path here.
 
In any mass protest, there will always be those that use it as an excuse to cause violence and as we saw from the extinction rebellion protests, where the majority of reporting was no violent protest - people were still calling for water canons.

You can either listen to the message of the 'vast majority' and hear what is being said or you can use the 'minority of protestors' to tarnish the rest and use it as an excuse to ignore the wider point.

I'm choosing the former...
People on here were calling for water canons? I don't recall seeing that and I'd have called him out for an idiot if I had.

As regards the latter I still want to see them distancing themselves from the vandalism. How else do we know that they don't condone it unless they say so. All it takes is one person to speak out on behalf of the movement.
 
In any mass protest, there will always be those that use it as an excuse to cause violence and as we saw from the extinction rebellion protests, where the majority of reporting was no violent protest - people were still calling for water canons.

You can either listen to the message of the 'vast majority' and hear what is being said or you can use the 'minority of protestors' to tarnish the rest and use it as an excuse to ignore the wider point.

I'm choosing the former...

Who were they then...I hope you didn’t just make that up.....
 
:eek: You massive racist you...nah you are not really, they were really bad managers. But let's have more in high level jobs even though they might not have worked up through the ranks to earn a shot or something.

Although saying that both Slippy G and Lampard did not deserve the jobs they have now. Not sure if that is an example of prejudice but if that is the case then it's the same for 99% of the population, as these have walked into a job because of who they are.
 
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