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All football clubs have a lunatic fringe too it would seem :hayee:
Tell you what, though. I read another general football forum that has boards for each team. The conversation on this thread would have been a racist sh*tstorm.

Bar a couple, everyone in here took the the right stand and stuck at it. A couple of posters were particularly impressive. Did my heart good reading their posts. Thank you!
 
All football clubs have a lunatic fringe too it would seem :hayee:
In the 1960's I played one season in the Heavy Woollen District Sunday League (West Yorkshire). There was one team in the league mostly made up of Catholic Priests, mainly Irish. In a football context, that was the lunatic fringe. They kicked lumps out of anything that moved. Scant consolation at the end of the game when they were all big smiles and handshakes.
 
In the 1960's I played one season in the Heavy Woollen District Sunday League (West Yorkshire). There was one team in the league mostly made up of Catholic Priests, mainly Irish. In a football context, that was the lunatic fringe. They kicked lumps out of anything that moved. Scant consolation at the end of the game when they were all big smiles and handshakes.
To be fair...in the 1960's, we thought that was the object of the game. Also, in the 60's just getting 'kicked' by Irish priests was considered a 'win'.
 
For anyone interested, there’s an article from the WSJ taken from Hirsi Ali’s later book about Islamic Reformation, which sets out her argument.

For what’s it’s worth I think her rhetoric on the topic has often been extremely unhelpful, and I think her arguments place far too much emphasis purely on the text, and ignores many of the other angles of all forms of extremism - the process of radicalisation, the fact that it’s almost always young men, the role of charismatic preachers and indoctrination, foreign policy, mental health issues etc.

I’m also doubtful as to whether her proposals would, or could, work, as it would require throwing some of key tenets in the bin, akin to asking Christians to accept that Jesus was just some guy, or that the 10 commandments are just rough guidelines.

There’s a reason her arguments have been better received in non-Muslim circles, as she’s writing from an atheist position, and is often deliberately inflammatory, which is not a good starting point if the aim is to get Muslims to buy into reformation and pluralism of interpretation.


Didn’t this lad convert to Christianity some 5 years ago ?

Why is Islam even being mention when the authorities themselves haven’t linked this to an Islamist attack ?
 
Didn’t this lad convert to Christianity some 5 years ago ?

Why is Islam even being mention when the authorities themselves haven’t linked this to an Islamist attack ?

Yeah, apparently so. Topic had turned to Hirsi Ali and reformation, so was commenting on that.

In this instance, looks like prior mental issues and lone wolf scenario. Doesn’t seem in any way ideologically driven, unless something new comes to light about his motives.
 
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