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[riddick]

So wait, why were there police aiming guns at a house then just leaving like everything was fine last night?

 

[coollino]

is it a tiny minority, a handful? or is it several thousand or tens of thousands? have you seen the Prevent figures? do you know how many went to actually fight for Isis?
I think it's a problem worth discussing.
How many hindu suicide bombers do we have? or jewish suicide bombers? it's not that many.

So far you've ignored the Troubles and Israel - Palestine and conflicts in India to make your argument. That's impressive

 

[woodsyni]

Anyway, youse carry on. I'm going to feed my dogs and get my tea.

All I wanted to say is that there are real people who are guilty of nothing here and there are real consequences for these people from words and attitudes. Just be empathetic!!!

 

[Kev50]

Using other religions doesn’t hold up though mate. Muslims are treated absolutely awfully in India which is a majority Hindu country. Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza. Both Catholics and Protestants committed acts of terror against each other during the troubles in Northern Ireland, and North Korea is a atheist state.

Does that mean every single one of these belief systems are directly responsible for these issues? And by extension does it mean everyone who subscribes to any of these belief systems is therefore a genocidal maniac, terrorist or a war criminal?

I think we can all agree it does not mean that, so surely the real problem is radicalisation, not Islam.

what words do every islamic terrorist recite when they carry out their atrocity?
Are we supposed to not believe them? or are we to look upon them and say, 'these poor fools, they don't understand their own religion that they've just died for'.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Well first of all look at the population statistics

Apparently last year there were a total of 127 suicide bombings carried out by 177 perpetrators. So 177 out of the 1.8 billion Muslims around the world is a huge problem that must be, erm, @Kev50 ?

 

[Kev50]

Apparently last year there were a total of 127 suicide bombings carried out by 177 perpetrators. So 177 out of the 1.8 billion Muslims around the world is a huge problem that must be, erm, @Kev50 ?

ok, it's not a huge problem. Have it your own way, but I suspect you wouldn't be saying this if Ullet Road was traffic free yesterday.

 

[RomanReigns]

the problem is the majority of these people are uneducated and are so stubborn that they are not even prepared to educate themselves to find out what is actually happening

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Apparently last year there were a total of 127 suicide bombings carried out by 177 perpetrators. So 177 out of the 1.8 billion Muslims around the world is a huge problem that must be, erm, @Kev50 ?

Oh, and it should probably go without saying that the vast majority of those attacks were in the middle east, with almost half of them by the Taliban alone in Afghanistan.

 

[ClausThomsen]

yes, agreed. the other religions though, how many times do we here about a Buddhist or a Christina fanatic blowing themselves and everyone else up? Why is that.

There's a lot of "Christian" terror attacks. There has been a wave of violence against abortion clinics motivated by questionable interpretations of Christian values. There was the Christchurch attack which had similarly twisted "Christian" beliefs. There have been a lot of cases of attacks against gay people by "Christian" people doing "God's work". Anti-semitic attacks also often have "Christian" values attached by the perpetrator.

They may not be suicide bombings but they do happen with alarming regularity. It's definitely more of a USA thing where Christian fundamentalism is more widespread.

It would of course be ridiculous to say that Christianity needs to be questioned. Damaged individuals will find any reason to justify their actions and religion is a conveniently vague justification.

There are even Buddhist attacks and violence against other religions. As mad as that sounds.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

ok, it's not a huge problem. Have it your own way, but I suspect you wouldn't be saying this if Ullet Road was traffic free yesterday.

I live 10 minutes or so from where the Borough Market attacks took place. Don't be silly Kev. I just provided you with data on the scale of the problem. Sadly you've just betrayed an unwillingness to learn.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

the problem is the majority of these people are uneducated and are so stubborn that they are not even prepared to educate themselves to find out what is actually happening

What do you say against such an accusation @Kev50 ?

 

[joey_macmo]

So wait, why were there police aiming guns at a house then just leaving like everything was fine last night?

There’s been a controlled explosion of some sort (looked very small) on Sefton park tonight. Almost certainly would have come from Rutland round the corner.

 

[Kev50]

There's a lot of "Christian" terror attacks. There has been a wave of violence against abortion clinics motivated by questionable interpretations of Christian values. There was the Christchurch attack which had similarly twisted "Christian" beliefs. There have been a lot of cases of attacks against gay people by "Christian" people doing "God's work". Anti-semitic attacks also often have "Christian" values attached by the perpetrator.

They may not be suicide bombings but they do happen with alarming regularity. It's definitely more of a USA thing where Christian fundamentalism is more widespread.

It would of course be ridiculous to say that Christianity needs to be questioned. Damaged individuals will find any reason to justify their actions and religion is a conveniently vague justification.

There are even Buddhist attacks and violence against other religions. As mad as that sounds.

fair points. I think though in terms of volume over the last twenty years. we have a clear and undisputed winner.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

fair points. I think though in terms of volume over the last twenty years. we have a clear and undisputed winner.

Recollection Bias and Its Underpinnings: Lessons from Terrorism-Risk Assessments

Recollection bias is the phenomenon whereby people, after observing a highly unexpected event, hold current risk beliefs about a similar event that are no higher than their recollection of their prior beliefs. This article explores recollection bias in relation to individuals’ perceptions of the...

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[Kev50]

I live 10 minutes or so from where the Borough Market attacks took place. Don't be silly Kev. I just provided you with data on the scale of the problem. Sadly you've just betrayed an unwillingness to learn.

your argument being that terrorism inspired by islamic fundamentalism is not sufficient to get bent out of shape about. I respectfully disagree.