Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
Lol!Martinez is a better manager than Moyes, don't care what anyone says.
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Lol!Martinez is a better manager than Moyes, don't care what anyone says.
Sorry but I wasn't lining up gheir achievements, my reference to Shankly was purely in relation to the attitude after he left, it took years for them to recognise what he'd done. As for money to spend you need to look at the money Walter was given (Dacourt, Collins, Matterazi et al) and reconsider your statement, it's false.
Congratulations to Martinez, he's officially as good as Bobby Gould!Remind where Moyes' Sunderland team finished this season?
1-1 on relegations, 1-0 on trophies. Looks like a Martinez victory to me.
Congratulations to Martinez, he's officially as good as Bobby Gould!
Don't really care what former managers do at other clubs. I judge Moyes and Martinez based on their time here. Moyes was a professional bottle merchant who could never break the glass ceiling and cost us in several major matchs including the FA cup final in 09. However he also transformed this club after a decade of relegation battles and made us safe as the best of the rest. Finishing 4th in 04-05 was a million times better then anything Martinez did here and both 07-08 & 08-09 were considerably better. Moyes left a tangible positive effect in that we were better off then when he arrived.Which is still better than Moyes right?
The cold hard facts are that Moyes has won nothing in a fairly lengthy career and can now add a relegation to that.
Utter loser.
Him not you.
Don't really care what former managers do at other clubs. I judge Moyes and Martinez based on their time here. Moyes was a professional bottle merchant who could never break the glass ceiling and cost us in several major matchs including the FA cup final in 09. However he also transformed this club after a decade of relegation battles and made us safe as the best of the rest. Finishing 4th in 04-05 was a million times better then anything Martinez did here and both 07-08 & 08-09 were considerably better. Moyes left a tangible positive effect in that we were better off then when he arrived.
Martinez the peacock strutted in here making ludicrous promises about champions league that he'd never have the ability to deliver even if he had a Real Madrid style budget. After fluking a decent season (and decent is all it was) with Moyes team plus Lukaku, Martinez was exposed for the charlatan he is. He undid all of Moyes work of making us hard to beat and having fortress Goodison transforming us in a gang of show ponys who were tragically easy to beat all to feed his little vanity project. The only tangible effect Martinez left here was relief at his departure from both players and fans alike.
Remind where Moyes' Sunderland team finished this season?
1-1 on relegations, 1-0 on trophies. Looks like a Martinez victory to me.
Rather curious what Martinez would've pulled off with that Sunderland line-up
He'd probably of said everything was fine and all these awful results were mearly a minor set back. He'd of continued to deny the reality of the situation until it was unavoidable. Then he'd of blamed anyone and everyone else but himself and walked away while acting like he was doing them a favour.I would assume he would not have bought in 50 ex Everton players who best days were ten years ago.
One thing he would not have done is say they were doomed before the season even kicked off. Though he may have said they will get Champions League football....
He'd probably of said everything was fine and all these awful results were mearly a minor set back. He'd of continued to deny the reality of the situation until it was unavoidable. Then he'd of blamed anyone and everyone else but himself and walked away while acting like he was doing them a favour.
Your probably right he wouldn't bring in ex Everton players because they'd all turn down the move to avoid working with that bafoon again. All the ex Wigan players just happy to get a pay check off any club stupid enough to pay them? That sounds more like it.