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[Rita_Poon]

 

[bluerobert]

Religion has always been challenged by changing times and attitudes. I honestly don’t see how this is any different. People used to think it was sound to kill people that left a religion, some still do. I don’t know if the lads message was one of protest or one of genuine love stating Jesus loves you as in everyone, only he knows that.

This defending of people saying that “it’s their religious beliefs” they speak out against LBQTQ+ for example is just pandering to people. They’re wrong and should be called out for it. It used to be socially acceptable to advertise jobs excluding people of a particular race but we put a stop to that. People of faith need to accept that not everyone follows their religion or beliefs. You can think whatever you want in your head but as soon as thoughts become actions in the real world they have consequences. If God forgives all what business is it of mortal man to tell anyone Gods will

 

[Rita_Poon]

 

[d34noj]

@d34noj

It would be nice if people showed respect for others' views even if they disagree with them.

are you new to this forum mate

 

[Bluerover]

are you new to this forum mate

Only since 2008.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

All the usual loons crying when James McClean didn't want to wear a poppy but totally sound when it is a rainbow flag...

 

[Kever10]

All the usual loons crying when James McClean didn't want to wear a poppy but totally sound when it is a rainbow flag...

I reckon it was probably the same "loons" crying on both occasions.

I couldn't care less who wears a poppy, an armband, laces etc. The people who insist on everyone doing anything are the ones with the agenda, and that's what ive been trying to say all along.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Come off it mate.

You know, I know, and he knows what that particular rainbow was symbolizing support for.

Like Guehi is well versed in the history of the semiotics of the rainbow symbol.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I reckon it was probably the same "loons" crying on both occasions.

I couldn't care less who wears a poppy, an armband, laces etc. The people who insist on everyone doing anything are the ones with the agenda, and that's what ive been trying to say all along.

But it is not an agenda until the right make it one!

Laces, and taking the knee are both well intended messages that we should be proud to promote -the right just see fury, big, red faced fury.


The joke abut the left being offended when it is clear the right are the issue here.

 

[LostLegend]

But it is not an agenda until the right make it one!

Laces, and taking the knee are both well intended messages that we should be proud to promote -the right just see fury, big, red faced fury.


The joke abut the left being offended when it is clear the right are the issue here.

Pretty much how all these threads have gone lately.

“I’m angry over something about a minority group that likely doesn’t affect me. Here’s why they are all wrong!”

“I disagree”

“WHY ARE YOU OFFENDED AT MY OPINION?!?!”

Gets really tiring after a bit.

 

[Walken]

Like Guehi is well versed in the history of the semiotics of the rainbow symbol.

On one hand he claims 'all footballers are thick' on the other hand they question your knowledge of theology.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Pretty much how all these threads have gone lately.

“I’m angry over something about a minority group that likely doesn’t affect me. Here’s why they are all wrong!”

“I disagree”

“WHY ARE YOU OFFENDED AT MY OPINION?!?!”

Gets really tiring after a bit.

The thing is, they all use the same, generic, right-wing terminology as the feeds I keep seeing.

The reasons they give for their objections (safe places for women, politicising sport, October 7th) are not the real reasons they object!

They are very transparent!

 

[d34noj]

The thing is, they all use the same, generic, right-wing terminology as the feeds I keep seeing.

The reasons they give for their objections (safe places for women, politicising sport, October 7th) are not the real reasons they object!

They are very transparent!

Which is what?

I can't wait to hear this

 

[Efcjake]

What it sounds like is that you have taken offence to it when you didn't need to. After he made a decision, rightly or wrongly, to make a compromise that he was comfortable with, because he wasn't completely comfortable in the message he was coerced into displaying, which was the point i was making.

There may indeed be good intentions behind the campaign, but it's delivery is hamfisted. Same as Guehi's response.

If you choose to believe his response had antagonistic intent, why is it so hard to understand that people might believe it's possible that the campaign does as well?

Ahh so now he's been coerced into wearing the armband. Glad we can drop the false pretenses of suggesting it wasn't done for any other reason than him disagreeing with supporting the campaign

Asking people to accept others and wear symbols of that support is antagonistic?

What about the campaign is antagonistic?

 

[Efcjake]

@d34noj

It would be nice if people showed respect for others' views even if they disagree with them.

As previously posted this excludes views that incite hatred or violence towards others.

It sure would be nice. I wonder what the breakdown would look like on violence committed against and perpetrated by those communities against each other.

Have a guess mate? Which community has expressed their intolerance of the other violently?

Would you reckon there's been more violence perpetrated by LGBTQ people against Christians or more violence perpetrated by "Christians" against LGBTQ people?

This level of ignorance regarding why that rainbow campaign exists is unreal.

If Guehi had showed the campaign the respect it is entitled to we wouldn't be discussing this.