Koeman

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Yes but he took over a side that had just had 2 x 11th placed finishes on the bounce.

You can ignore that and you will, because it besmirches your total backing of your Spanish man love.

So he improved on his predecessor in his first season. Truth be known, he was then sacked 3 months into the next season, so there is an argument he was sacked too soon as he might of turned it around.

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I think you'd have to be stretching to make that argument

We were sinking under his leadership and he'd lost both the supporters and the dressing room

Truth be told I never warmed to him. I tried to back him, and during the first season I thought he did alright overall, but by that second season I was sick to the back teeth of him and these days I genuinely don't like him one bit

I wanted Martinez gone when he finally left but I never disliked him as a person the same way I disliked Koeman

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Exactly. The model was in place and working well enough. Koeman was the big switch = and he squandered the cash from selling our family silver on slow and / or limited players.

Without a moment's hesitation I have him down as the worst manager in our modern history - the cash spent clinches it.

Mike Walker was worse

Uglier bloke as well. Looked like a withered "Super Macho Man" from Punch Out

 

[Black Belt Jones]

Yes but he took over a side that had just had 2 x 11th placed finishes on the bounce.

You can ignore that and you will, because it besmirches your total backing of your Spanish man love.

So he improved on his predecessor in his first season. Truth be known, he was then sacked 3 months into the next season, so there is an argument he was sacked too soon as he might of turned it around.

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Could have kept him on that season as he would likely have steadied the ship and finished around the same place we did, avoiding the cost and embarrassment of Allardyce. Plus the team fell even more to bits after he left which precipitated the Big Sam fiasco (in hindsight the Southampton game was our lowest ebb and a one-off, but it did not feel that way at the time, felt like we had worse performances in us).

But it was over for him in general - you don't get two chances to completely rebuild a team in the modern era. £200 million to send the team backwards, made a show of us in Europe, horrendous league form, appalling relationship with the fans. So prob right to just fire the failure there and then and try to pick up the pieces as best you can.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Mike Walker was worse

Uglier bloke as well. Looked like a withered "Super Macho Man" from Punch Out

Seriously, it's eerie...

 

[Eggs]

....bad, just bad.

 

[PITA]

Not defending Koeman or his record - there’s just a huge element of truth in the quote regarding the reality of the task at hand and our fans expectations.

If he didn't think that he could achieve anything why did he leave Southampton to join us?

 

[Saint Domingo]

Anyone who remembers the displays leading up to that 4-1 Southampton game knows exactly why he was fired. It wasn’t a case of him not having enough time, he was absolutely piledriving us into relegation. Even Allardyce used a few more brain cells to drop Klaassen Schneiderlin and Sandro, move Rooney deep, bring Davies in, and put what little pace we had up front. At least we had a semblance of a football team there even if it was crap.

Koeman’s team of Gueye Schneiderlin Klaassen in midfield and Siggurdson Rooney Sandro up front twas just all kinds of wrong. The slowest most unbalanced Everton team I’ve seen.

 

[blueconverse]

Still no idea what his style of play was besides pass the ball to Lukaku. The 3 dms versus Stoke still keeps me up at night.

 

[davek]

Anyone who remembers the displays leading up to that 4-1 Southampton game knows exactly why he was fired. It wasn’t a case of him not having enough time, he was absolutely piledriving us into relegation. Even Allardyce used a few more brain cells to drop Klaassen Schneiderlin and Sandro, move Rooney deep, bring Davies in, and put what little pace we had up front. At least we had a semblance of a football team there even if it was crap.

Koeman’s team of Gueye Schneiderlin Klaassen in midfield and Siggurdson Rooney Sandro up front twas just all kinds of wrong. The slowest most unbalanced Everton team I’ve seen.

The second half of the first season is where he got some results in. How did that happen though? Bolasie got crocked and Plan A went west. He then allowed the players he inherited to get on the ball and play through midfield a lot more and we spanked a few decent teams.

The fellers was utterly clueless.

 

[MikeH72]

Anyone who remembers the displays leading up to that 4-1 Southampton game knows exactly why he was fired. It wasn’t a case of him not having enough time, he was absolutely piledriving us into relegation. Even Allardyce used a few more brain cells to drop Klaassen Schneiderlin and Sandro, move Rooney deep, bring Davies in, and put what little pace we had up front. At least we had a semblance of a football team there even if it was crap.

Koeman’s team of Gueye Schneiderlin Klaassen in midfield and Siggurdson Rooney Sandro up front twas just all kinds of wrong. The slowest most unbalanced Everton team I’ve seen.

Atalanta away was when it hit me. I don’t think I’ve ever watched a collection of 11 people have such little clue what they were supposed to be doing in my life.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Still no idea what his style of play was besides pass the ball to Lukaku. The 3 dms versus Stoke still keeps me up at night.

He seemed to have a decent system going at the end of his first season. Schneiderlin deep distributing, Gueye and Davies pressing, Barkley tucking in from the left to switch from a 433 to a diamond with Mirallas moving from the wing to up top with Lukaku. It was actually a decent balanced team and the 4-0 against City showed the system worked ok.

He then completely lost his mind and replaced Lukaku with Rooney, Barkley with Siggurdson, Mirallas with Sandro, and Davies with Klaassen leaving us with the slowest most impotent team in the league.

That one transfer window set us back years.

 

[Saint Domingo]

The second half of the first season is where he got some results in. How did that happen though? Bolasie got crocked and Plan A went west. He then allowed the players he inherited to get on the ball and play through midfield a lot more and we spanked a few decent teams.

The fellers was utterly clueless.

The faith he put in the Bolasie Lukaku link up was hilarious. Two cart horses who couldn’t trap a ball pretending they had an understanding which in reality didn’t go any further than Bolasie lobbing balls blindly into the box.

 

[davek]

The faith he put in the Bolasie Lukaku link up was hilarious. Two cart horses who couldn’t trap a ball pretending they had an understanding which in reality didn’t go any further than Bolasie lobbing balls blindly into the box.

We were atrocious up until Christmas that first season. I remember the lump upfield to Bolasie who knocked it onto Lukaku to get ahead of the defence happening about once: against City away, I think. Koeman felt himself vindicated after it as I recall, like he was a bona fide Dutch master instead of a fat headed clown.

 

[blueconverse]

He seemed to have a decent system going at the end of his first season. Schneiderlin deep distributing, Gueye and Davies pressing, Barkley tucking in from the left to switch from a 433 to a diamond with Mirallas moving from the wing to up top with Lukaku. It was actually a decent balanced team and the 4-0 against City showed the system worked ok.

He then completely lost his mind and replaced Lukaku with Rooney, Barkley with Siggurdson, Mirallas with Sandro, and Davies with Klaassen leaving us with the slowest most impotent team in the league.

That one transfer window set us back years.

Honestly that was a fluke game. If they didn't have a hologram in goal it would have been a different story. He dined out on that win for a long time but yeh agree on the transfer window. Absolute travesty, from his system to his transfer plan he was utterly clueless. Would have loved to see him at Barca to see him fail on an astronomical scale.

 

[jackyboy]

Honestly that was a fluke game. If they didn't have a hologram in goal it would have been a different story. He dined out on that win for a long time but yeh agree on the transfer window. Absolute travesty, from his system to his transfer plan he was utterly clueless. Would have loved to see him at Barca to see him fail on an astronomical scale.

I still struggle to believe that 4 nil game and I was there.

That third goal is still one of the most ridiculous goals I've seen. Somebody with no pace running the length of the pitch and dinking the keeper.

Think that was the end for a lot of City players that day.