Koeman Not Confident On Barkley

[Joey66]

No Joey.

Wrong. Funding of the ground, when it gets sorted, will not have any impact on player sales or buys. Not in the short/medium term anyrate.

Let's see our net spend on players has so far been minimal!

 

[davek]

Dave, are you being serious? If so the board are taking the piss !!!

It's what I heard mate. £70K pw.

 

[ToffeeTim]

How is that relevant to anything?

Barkley's peers and therefore his point of comparison are other professional footballers. If he values himself at £150k, that is his prerogative to negotiate towards that via his agent.

He's done nothing unusual or out of order - indeed, he's done what thousands of people in any other job do every day; stay quiet, negotiate professionally, get on with his contracted job.

The size of the wage is totally irrelevant.

I earn frig all and I've never once went to my boss demanding a pay rise. I've got on with my work and I hope that will be fairly recognised over time.

 

[onlyme]

So koeman is fibbing.... Hmmmm

No, he said he wasnt confident. He didn't say he wouldn't sign.

 

[davek]

Exactly!
So in that case, three outcomes:

• The asset is unaffordable and should offloaded because the club doesn't value the asset.
• The agent folds and accepts the offer on the table.
• The club decides to negotiate further and reassess the value of the asset and make a further offer.

That's all we're at right now. Barkley may want to leave, but I'd be astonished if that were the case. I think one of the three above scenarios is very likely, and we're in a limbo of inaction right now other than Koeman's loud mouth in press conferences.

Bingo.

 

[matty1878]

We will get over him. It's more annoying that there's no loyalty considering he's a ahem blue and we seem to be on the up.

 

[matty1878]

No, he said he wasnt confident. He didn't say he wouldn't sign.

But if he was he would say he WAS confident so read between the lines

 

[Goat]

No, he said he wasnt confident. He didn't say he wouldn't sign.

 

[hktoffee]

I hear from good sources that theylre offering him less than Mirallas.

Hope that was not the guy who told you someone inside the club signed Niasse for Martinez.

 

[Tubey]

I earn frig all and I've never once went to my boss demanding a pay rise. I've got on with my work and I hope that will be fairly recognised over time.

Good for you - but, again, I have no idea what your situation has to do with Barkleys. You are within your rights to be happy with your wage, be unhappy, think you're overpaid, request to negotiate it for any value you wish or whatever.

The size of Barkley's wage to yours or anybody elses is completely irrelevant - the only opinion that matters is Everton's; whether they believe what the employee is requesting is good value for the business. If it is, offer the contract. If you think there's wiggle room, offer a lower one and negotiate it. If it simply isn't, offload the asset to another business who values the services of that employee to the extent the employee wishes for.

There's no room for emotion in this, and that's why a fan of the club that Ross Barkley is is 100% totally in the right to leave any and every action on his contract to his agent, because otherwise he's wide open to not receiving the compensation he can get for his talents.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Constructive dismissal.

Koeman has never wanted him.

We have to put up with class players leaving when they cant work with a manager who wont be here more than two years.

Crazy.

Someone at the top of the club needs to step in here and offer a big contract and stop this haemorrhaging of talent.

Contructive dismissal my arse. He's played him almost every game. He got him back in the England squad.

 

[davek]

Make no mistake: if Barkley stays now it'll be because the board have done a big deal with Barkley and not because Koeman wanted it. The manager wants him out so he can spend the cash on a player he can more easily mould.

This is a high stakes game and a lot of noses will be put out of joint if he stays or goes. The club politics involved here are significant to the future of the club.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

This should have been kept in house. It is irrelevant what fans think he is worth. He has every right to bargain for a better deal. This happens with players all the time and the only reason Barkley appears to be the bad guy is because Koeman made it public.

 

[Goat]

Make no mistake: if Barkley stays now oit'll be because they have done a big deal with Barkley and not because Koeman wanted it. The manager wants him out so he can spend the cash on a player he can more easily mould.

This is a high stakes game and a lot of noses will be put out of joint if he stays or goes. The club politics involved here are significant to the future of the club.

lollollol

 

[Wizard]

Find it hard to believe he is wanting £150,000 a week. Where else would he get anywhere near that. Apparently Kane is on £100,000 a week and Spurs aren't Barkley more than that. Don't think the other teams that could afford £150,000 a week for him would actually want him at that wage level.