2019/20 Jordan Pickford

Eggs

Player Valuation: £70m
I moved this out of the Bernard thread.

Except this year he really isn't. There are still the occasional stunners but far too many are going in. When he was playing well it was because he was a good shot stopper and that going away has revealed just how lacking the rest can be.
....it’s a fair point. He’s probably a decent instinctive shot stopper. When he’s got time to think he prone to mistakes.
 

BigBlueConk

Player Valuation: £70m
I'm old enough to remember when Everton fans were delighted we got Pickford to replace Tim Howard.
Clearly the delight was that we got rid of Tim Howard.
Pickford was player of the season his first season as I recall? Must have just got lucky for 38 games.
 

Simon Buttle

Player Valuation: £15m
I'm old enough to remember when Everton fans were delighted we got Pickford to replace Tim Howard.
Clearly the delight was that we got rid of Tim Howard.
Pickford was player of the season his first season as I recall? Must have just got lucky for 38 games.
I certainly was'nt delighted when we signed a goalkeeper who had just conceded 50+ goals, people get blinded by the fact he is England no1, does'nt make him any good, England have not done anything for years.
 

TheBigIguana

Player Valuation: £70m
I certainly was'nt delighted when we signed a goalkeeper who had just conceded 50+ goals, people get blinded by the fact he is England no1, does'nt make him any good, England have not done anything for years.
He legitimately played well in 17/18 and at that point he was a good shot stopper with some flaws. The flaws have gone nowhere but he's also stopped stopping shots. It doesn't leave much and it started last year.
 

Furey1878

Player Valuation: £70m
I'm old enough to remember when Everton fans were delighted we got Pickford to replace Tim Howard.
Clearly the delight was that we got rid of Tim Howard.
Pickford was player of the season his first season as I recall? Must have just got lucky for 38 games.
Tbf mate Howard could be really good for us too in games and was a decent keeper overall but ultimately he had a few clangers in him and left a lot to be desired in how he commanded the box, dealt with crosses and distributed the ball.

I see many of same issues with Pickford, he's an erratic figure when a goalie needs to be a calming presence, he can pull off worldy saves but is all too often at fault for a fair few goals. Granted Pickford is younger, and young for a goalie, so he has time on his side to add the elements that make a keeper with good natural shot-stopping ability like him into a top-class one.

That said, I can't help but feel his personality won't ever lend towards him being the calming presence we need in goal. So if we were offered enough to make back most for what we spent on him, or even make a profit, then we should cash in and look for a new goalie. That said, I can't see anyone spending big on him, and we have much more pressing needs than replacing our Goalie right now, CM, RW, CB and RB are all of greater importance. Ideally we'd be able to sign all of these as well as perhaps a more experienced keeper who will actually keep Pickford on his toes but I doubt finances will budget for that. So let's just hope Ancelotti can have a good effect on him.
 

14towestham

Player Valuation: £1m
Tbf mate Howard could be really good for us too in games and was a decent keeper overall but ultimately he had a few clangers in him and left a lot to be desired in how he commanded the box, dealt with crosses and distributed the ball.

I see many of same issues with Pickford, he's an erratic figure when a goalie needs to be a calming presence, he can pull off worldy saves but is all too often at fault for a fair few goals. Granted Pickford is younger, and young for a goalie, so he has time on his side to add the elements that make a keeper with good natural shot-stopping ability like him into a top-class one.

That said, I can't help but feel his personality won't ever lend towards him being the calming presence we need in goal. So if we were offered enough to make back most for what we spent on him, or even make a profit, then we should cash in and look for a new goalie. That said, I can't see anyone spending big on him, and we have much more pressing needs than replacing our Goalie right now, CM, RW, CB and RB are all of greater importance. Ideally we'd be able to sign all of these as well as perhaps a more experienced keeper who will actually keep Pickford on his toes but I doubt finances will budget for that. So let's just hope Ancelotti can have a good effect on him.
Disagree. I thought Howard was bang average. Didnt make many howlers compared to the amount of games he played but also rarely made top class
points winning saves He was a 6th-15th best keepr in the league.

Pickford has made serious errors in almost every game I watched for well over a year now. He is eratic, doeasnt seem to have the right temperament to be a top class keeper and I doubt any of his defenders/midfielders have almost any faith in him whatsoever. He looks the worst keeper in the prem by some way to me.
 

Furey1878

Player Valuation: £70m
Disagree. I thought Howard was bang average. Didnt make many howlers compared to the amount of games he played but also rarely made top class
points winning saves He was a 6th-15th best keepr in the league.

Pickford has made serious errors in almost every game I watched for well over a year now. He is eratic, doeasnt seem to have the right temperament to be a top class keeper and I doubt any of his defenders/midfielders have almost any faith in him whatsoever. He looks the worst keeper in the prem by some way to me.
Agree on Howard, think he was alright, just think he's unfairly criticised at times because he was kept on 2 seasons too long.

With Pickford, I wouldn't say he's one of the worst in the league, he's capable of saves only a few other keepers in the league are capable of but his mentality and erratic nature and lack of focus almost completely cancels out his abilities as shot stopper. It's clear now Koeman/Walsh just signed him as flavour of the month young English player, hope we look to the continent for our next keeper.
 

Saint Domingo

Player Valuation: £70m
Not a patch on Nigel Martyn. On his best form though he can be a good keeper, what is infuriating is that since the World Cup his form has just dropped off a cliff edge to the point where nearly every shot he faces is going in.
 

Toast

Player Valuation: £70m
Not a patch on Nigel Martyn. On his best form though he can be a good keeper, what is infuriating is that since the World Cup his form has just dropped off a cliff edge to the point where nearly every shot he faces is going in.
Dele Ali, Lingard, Pickford maybe a couple more, haven't been the same since that world cup.
 

Saint Domingo

Player Valuation: £70m
Dele Ali, Lingard, Pickford maybe a couple more, haven't been the same since that world cup.
I feel a bit sorry for Pickford, before the World Cup he wasn’t the media choice for the team, it was all about how it should be Butland or Heaton or even Pope. Then when Southgate picked him they were waiting for him to slip up, a semi error against Belgium and the dogs were out for him how he needed to be dropped etc. Against Columbia and especially Sweden he was absolutely brilliant though. Since then it’s been like he’s had a target on his back and of course his error at Anfield was all the ammunition the kopite media needed to proclaim that they’d been right all along and he wasn’t good enough to be England number 1. Since then it’s just been one error to another with the Newcastle debacle and poor performances. If he brings his 17/18 form back we’ve got a good keeper but his head hasn’t been right for ages.
 

McMagicT

Player Valuation: £750k
Not a patch on Nigel Martyn. On his best form though he can be a good keeper, what is infuriating is that since the World Cup his form has just dropped off a cliff edge to the point where nearly every shot he faces is going in.
First sentence spot on! Pickford, from the day he came the man is a liabilty, and mark my words if Carlo keeps him, it's Carlo who will lose his job.
 
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