January Transfer Thread 2020

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Taking into account Onyekuru's sale - we have a net spend of about £16 million.

Depending on what Tosun goes for we'll be near enough evens you'll imagine this summer.

Absolutely no excuses not to be bringing in 2-3 in January - at the minimum we need a CB & CM.

Schnerderlin can bugger off on loan then never to return hopefully.

I don't think so.

Out
Vlasic 14M
Lookman 17M
Gana 27M
Robinson 2M
Williams 2M
JMac 3M
Onyenkuru 12M
Lukaku 5M
Naismith 1M
Total 83M OUT

In
Gomes 22.5
Delph 8.5M
Kean 25M
Gbamin 22.5M
Iwobi 27.5M
Sidibe 2.5M Loan fee
Total 109M

NET -26M

That's what I've got. Now the salary is probably 6M a year in savings and when Niasse, Mirallas, Martina, and Bolasie - or at least some of his salary - goes, it'll be a savings of like 16M a year. If Tosun goes, we might even break even.
 
I don't think so.

Out
Vlasic 14M
Lookman 17M
Gana 27M
Robinson 2M
Williams 2M
JMac 3M
Onyenkuru 12M
Lukaku 5M
Naismith 1M
Total 83M OUT

In
Gomes 22.5
Delph 8.5M
Kean 25M
Gbamin 22.5M
Iwobi 27.5M
Sidibe 2.5M Loan fee
Total 109M

NET -26M

That's what I've got. Now the salary is probably 6M a year in savings and when Niasse, Mirallas, Martina, and Bolasie - or at least some of his salary - goes, it'll be a savings of like 16M a year. If Tosun goes, we might even break even.

Yeah thats roughly what I got but I think Silva included loan fees we have received for all the loanees when he quoted £28 million prior to Onyekuru's sale.

Either way we should have cash swilling around in Janaury unless Mosh decides to pull a General Kenwrong and bank the Arteta Money
 

Here is an observation:

If you examine the top six sides all, but Liverpool, bought 'top tier' players in the summer.

Spurs - Tanguy Ndombele - 55m
Man Utd - Harry Maguire - 83m
Chelsea - Mateo Kovacic - 40m
Arsenal - Nicolas Pepe - 72m
Man City - Rodri - 73m

Now there other examples of other great players that the above clubs have purchased this window but the above represents the highest fee paid for one single player purchase.

So what am I trying to say?

They all have paid a lot more than us for the cream, you know, the so-called STATEMENT purchases. These players will mostly always improve your team.

I noticed some posters getting all hyped up before the Palace game extolling our purchases this window. The mantra was lets push on and challenge top four!

I admire their positivity but it simply ain't gonna happen, not yet anyway.

Until we have access to buying the real top tier players, ie the STATEMENT SIGNINGS, we will always be languishing below the teams mentioned above.

Okay one of these top six may have a 'one off' poor season. It may happen to Chelsea this season hopefully but the odds are still stacked in their favour to finish above us.

So how the hell did Spurs become one of these so called top six clubs? One name, Harry Kane! They were like us a few years back. Paying too much for good players but not being able to attract the cream. Spurs had a generational slice of luck though didn't they. Kane came through the ranks and was a goal machine. Unbelievably he stayed loyal as well which meant they could then build a team around him. Imagine if Rooney had stayed all those years ago or Lukaku and we had the purchasing power we have now back then. We could've built something special just like Spurs are doing now. What I'm trying to say is because 'World Class' Kane didn't want to leave it made Spurs more attractive for top tier players to want to join them. As a player you'd love to join a club with a goal machine up front wouldn't you?

If Moise Kean, in say 2 years time, scored 20 for us the likelihood is we'd have to sell him to a top club. There's the difference you see. A section of the fan base would congratulate Brands for generating a tremendous profit. It'd be invested in some decent prospects but not one of them would be a STATEMENT SIGNING!

Going forward Everton must retain their top tier players and not sell them to the elite clubs, such as Gueye, Lukaku, Stones and Barkey. We could then perhaps attract better players, statement players and build a top four team.

What we have done is bought good players that may become better with coaching and maturity. It's a business model that if pursued successfully can maintain your club in good financial health. We are certainly a team that is good in possession, nice on the eye. It can be pretty to watch. Long gone are the 'lump it up the pitch' days!

However in that final third, where the decision making makes all the difference, can we honestly say we convert our chances like the top six can time after time?

My hope for Everton is that we have got to get rid of the parasites that I believe are holding us back financially, such as Besic, Bolassie, Mirallas, Sandro, Niasse, Tosun, Walcott and Scheiderlin. Then if we improve the core players we have and Kean starts scoring maybe we will become an attractive club for top players to want to join. I hope so.

You see until we can sign the likes of Zaha we can never say, "okay lads let's push on for top four!"
 
Here is an observation:

If you examine the top six sides all, but Liverpool, bought 'top tier' players in the summer.

Spurs - Tanguy Ndombele - 55m
Man Utd - Harry Maguire - 83m
Chelsea - Mateo Kovacic - 40m
Arsenal - Nicolas Pepe - 72m
Man City - Rodri - 73m

Now there other examples of other great players that the above clubs have purchased this window but the above represents the highest fee paid for one single player purchase.

So what am I trying to say?

They all have paid a lot more than us for the cream, you know, the so-called STATEMENT purchases. These players will mostly always improve your team.

I noticed some posters getting all hyped up before the Palace game extolling our purchases this window. The mantra was lets push on and challenge top four!

I admire their positivity but it simply ain't gonna happen, not yet anyway.

Until we have access to buying the real top tier players, ie the STATEMENT SIGNINGS, we will always be languishing below the teams mentioned above.

Okay one of these top six may have a 'one off' poor season. It may happen to Chelsea this season hopefully but the odds are still stacked in their favour to finish above us.

So how the hell did Spurs become one of these so called top six clubs? One name, Harry Kane! They were like us a few years back. Paying too much for good players but not being able to attract the cream. Spurs had a generational slice of luck though didn't they. Kane came through the ranks and was a goal machine. Unbelievably he stayed loyal as well which meant they could then build a team around him. Imagine if Rooney had stayed all those years ago or Lukaku and we had the purchasing power we have now back then. We could've built something special just like Spurs are doing now. What I'm saying us because 'World Class' Kane didn't want to leave it made Spurs more attractive for top tier players to join them. As a player you'd love to join a club with a goal machine up front.

If Moise Kean, in say 2 years time, scored 20 for us the likelihood is we'd have to sell him to a top club though. There's the difference you see. A section of the fan base would congratulate Brands for generating a tremendous profit. It'd be invested in some decent prospects but not one of them would be a STATEMENT SIGNING!

Going forward Everton must retain their top tier players and not sell them to the elite clubs, such as Gueye, Lukaku, Stones and Barkey. We could then perhaps attract better players, statement players and build a top four team.

What we have done is bought good players that may become better with coaching and maturity. It's a business model that if pursued successfully can maintain your club in good financial health. We are certainly a team that is good in possession, nice on the eye. It can be pretty to watch. Long gone are the 'lump it up the pitch' days!

However in that final third, where the decision making makes all the difference, can we honestly say we convert our chances like the top six can time after time?

My hope for Everton is that we have got to get rid of the parasites that I believe are holding us back financially, such as Besic, Bolassie, Mirallas, Sandro, Niasse, Tosun, Walcott and Scheiderlin. Then if we improve the core players we have and Kean starts scoring maybe we will become an attractive club for top players to want to join. I hope so.

You see until we can sign the likes of Zaha we can never say, "okay lads let's push on for top four!"

Our club dont have the same ambition as those clubs. Zaha would have been a game changer for us but our club was to scared to take the risk.
 
Our club dont have the same ambition as those clubs. Zaha would have been a game changer for us but our club was to scared to take the risk.
I agree. That's the problem. It's a financial issue. Even though we are better off these days unfortunately with FFP and the fact commercially we don't compete with the top clubs it paralyses us.
 
Here is an observation:

If you examine the top six sides all, but Liverpool, bought 'top tier' players in the summer.

Spurs - Tanguy Ndombele - 55m
Man Utd - Harry Maguire - 83m
Chelsea - Mateo Kovacic - 40m
Arsenal - Nicolas Pepe - 72m
Man City - Rodri - 73m

Now there other examples of other great players that the above clubs have purchased this window but the above represents the highest fee paid for one single player purchase.

So what am I trying to say?

They all have paid a lot more than us for the cream, you know, the so-called STATEMENT purchases. These players will mostly always improve your team.

I noticed some posters getting all hyped up before the Palace game extolling our purchases this window. The mantra was lets push on and challenge top four!

I admire their positivity but it simply ain't gonna happen, not yet anyway.

Until we have access to buying the real top tier players, ie the STATEMENT SIGNINGS, we will always be languishing below the teams mentioned above.

Okay one of these top six may have a 'one off' poor season. It may happen to Chelsea this season hopefully but the odds are still stacked in their favour to finish above us.

So how the hell did Spurs become one of these so called top six clubs? One name, Harry Kane! They were like us a few years back. Paying too much for good players but not being able to attract the cream. Spurs had a generational slice of luck though didn't they. Kane came through the ranks and was a goal machine. Unbelievably he stayed loyal as well which meant they could then build a team around him. Imagine if Rooney had stayed all those years ago or Lukaku and we had the purchasing power we have now back then. We could've built something special just like Spurs are doing now. What I'm trying to say is because 'World Class' Kane didn't want to leave it made Spurs more attractive for top tier players to want to join them. As a player you'd love to join a club with a goal machine up front wouldn't you?

If Moise Kean, in say 2 years time, scored 20 for us the likelihood is we'd have to sell him to a top club. There's the difference you see. A section of the fan base would congratulate Brands for generating a tremendous profit. It'd be invested in some decent prospects but not one of them would be a STATEMENT SIGNING!

Going forward Everton must retain their top tier players and not sell them to the elite clubs, such as Gueye, Lukaku, Stones and Barkey. We could then perhaps attract better players, statement players and build a top four team.

What we have done is bought good players that may become better with coaching and maturity. It's a business model that if pursued successfully can maintain your club in good financial health. We are certainly a team that is good in possession, nice on the eye. It can be pretty to watch. Long gone are the 'lump it up the pitch' days!

However in that final third, where the decision making makes all the difference, can we honestly say we convert our chances like the top six can time after time?

My hope for Everton is that we have got to get rid of the parasites that I believe are holding us back financially, such as Besic, Bolassie, Mirallas, Sandro, Niasse, Tosun, Walcott and Scheiderlin. Then if we improve the core players we have and Kean starts scoring maybe we will become an attractive club for top players to want to join. I hope so.

You see until we can sign the likes of Zaha we can never say, "okay lads let's push on for top four!"

Id disagree with that mate, i think we should be buying players and be developing them before they are worth 70 milll, which they well could chasing high profile, high cost signings is just fools gold, one we cant afford and two like it or not we are at the bottom of the food chain of CL clubs and will be waiting until they have had their main courses.

Our approach must be buy raw, develop and build.
 
Our club dont have the same ambition as those clubs. Zaha would have been a game changer for us but our club was to scared to take the risk.
Pal of mine who is a West Ham fan said exactly the same thing when zaha put in his transfer request. What a game changer and statement from Everton if you sign him. Typical Everton we didn’t.
 

Here is an observation:

If you examine the top six sides all, but Liverpool, bought 'top tier' players in the summer.

Spurs - Tanguy Ndombele - 55m
Man Utd - Harry Maguire - 83m
Chelsea - Mateo Kovacic - 40m
Arsenal - Nicolas Pepe - 72m
Man City - Rodri - 73m

Now there other examples of other great players that the above clubs have purchased this window but the above represents the highest fee paid for one single player purchase.

So what am I trying to say?

They all have paid a lot more than us for the cream, you know, the so-called STATEMENT purchases. These players will mostly always improve your team.

I noticed some posters getting all hyped up before the Palace game extolling our purchases this window. The mantra was lets push on and challenge top four!

I admire their positivity but it simply ain't gonna happen, not yet anyway.

Until we have access to buying the real top tier players, ie the STATEMENT SIGNINGS, we will always be languishing below the teams mentioned above.

Okay one of these top six may have a 'one off' poor season. It may happen to Chelsea this season hopefully but the odds are still stacked in their favour to finish above us.

So how the hell did Spurs become one of these so called top six clubs? One name, Harry Kane! They were like us a few years back. Paying too much for good players but not being able to attract the cream. Spurs had a generational slice of luck though didn't they. Kane came through the ranks and was a goal machine. Unbelievably he stayed loyal as well which meant they could then build a team around him. Imagine if Rooney had stayed all those years ago or Lukaku and we had the purchasing power we have now back then. We could've built something special just like Spurs are doing now. What I'm trying to say is because 'World Class' Kane didn't want to leave it made Spurs more attractive for top tier players to want to join them. As a player you'd love to join a club with a goal machine up front wouldn't you?

If Moise Kean, in say 2 years time, scored 20 for us the likelihood is we'd have to sell him to a top club. There's the difference you see. A section of the fan base would congratulate Brands for generating a tremendous profit. It'd be invested in some decent prospects but not one of them would be a STATEMENT SIGNING!

Going forward Everton must retain their top tier players and not sell them to the elite clubs, such as Gueye, Lukaku, Stones and Barkey. We could then perhaps attract better players, statement players and build a top four team.

What we have done is bought good players that may become better with coaching and maturity. It's a business model that if pursued successfully can maintain your club in good financial health. We are certainly a team that is good in possession, nice on the eye. It can be pretty to watch. Long gone are the 'lump it up the pitch' days!

However in that final third, where the decision making makes all the difference, can we honestly say we convert our chances like the top six can time after time?

My hope for Everton is that we have got to get rid of the parasites that I believe are holding us back financially, such as Besic, Bolassie, Mirallas, Sandro, Niasse, Tosun, Walcott and Scheiderlin. Then if we improve the core players we have and Kean starts scoring maybe we will become an attractive club for top players to want to join. I hope so.

You see until we can sign the likes of Zaha we can never say, "okay lads let's push on for top four!"

I don’t think Mateo Kovacic is much of a statement signing, and actually we got a better player for half the price in Gomes. The price tag isn’t everything.
 
Its all Skys fault for concocting 'Deadline Day'. Oh for the days of Harry Catterick 'No need to tell anyone Bobby/Alan/whoever, meet me at the Motorway Services, we'll have a cuppa and you can sign the contract'
 
Here is an observation:

If you examine the top six sides all, but Liverpool, bought 'top tier' players in the summer.

Spurs - Tanguy Ndombele - 55m
Man Utd - Harry Maguire - 83m
Chelsea - Mateo Kovacic - 40m
Arsenal - Nicolas Pepe - 72m
Man City - Rodri - 73m

Now there other examples of other great players that the above clubs have purchased this window but the above represents the highest fee paid for one single player purchase.

So what am I trying to say?

They all have paid a lot more than us for the cream, you know, the so-called STATEMENT purchases. These players will mostly always improve your team.

I noticed some posters getting all hyped up before the Palace game extolling our purchases this window. The mantra was lets push on and challenge top four!

I admire their positivity but it simply ain't gonna happen, not yet anyway.

Until we have access to buying the real top tier players, ie the STATEMENT SIGNINGS, we will always be languishing below the teams mentioned above.

Okay one of these top six may have a 'one off' poor season. It may happen to Chelsea this season hopefully but the odds are still stacked in their favour to finish above us.

So how the hell did Spurs become one of these so called top six clubs? One name, Harry Kane! They were like us a few years back. Paying too much for good players but not being able to attract the cream. Spurs had a generational slice of luck though didn't they. Kane came through the ranks and was a goal machine. Unbelievably he stayed loyal as well which meant they could then build a team around him. Imagine if Rooney had stayed all those years ago or Lukaku and we had the purchasing power we have now back then. We could've built something special just like Spurs are doing now. What I'm trying to say is because 'World Class' Kane didn't want to leave it made Spurs more attractive for top tier players to want to join them. As a player you'd love to join a club with a goal machine up front wouldn't you?

If Moise Kean, in say 2 years time, scored 20 for us the likelihood is we'd have to sell him to a top club. There's the difference you see. A section of the fan base would congratulate Brands for generating a tremendous profit. It'd be invested in some decent prospects but not one of them would be a STATEMENT SIGNING!

Going forward Everton must retain their top tier players and not sell them to the elite clubs, such as Gueye, Lukaku, Stones and Barkey. We could then perhaps attract better players, statement players and build a top four team.

What we have done is bought good players that may become better with coaching and maturity. It's a business model that if pursued successfully can maintain your club in good financial health. We are certainly a team that is good in possession, nice on the eye. It can be pretty to watch. Long gone are the 'lump it up the pitch' days!

However in that final third, where the decision making makes all the difference, can we honestly say we convert our chances like the top six can time after time?

My hope for Everton is that we have got to get rid of the parasites that I believe are holding us back financially, such as Besic, Bolassie, Mirallas, Sandro, Niasse, Tosun, Walcott and Scheiderlin. Then if we improve the core players we have and Kean starts scoring maybe we will become an attractive club for top players to want to join. I hope so.

You see until we can sign the likes of Zaha we can never say, "okay lads let's push on for top four!"


Superb post
 
Id disagree with that mate, i think we should be buying players and be developing them before they are worth 70 milll, which they well could chasing high profile, high cost signings is just fools gold, one we cant afford and two like it or not we are at the bottom of the food chain of CL clubs and will be waiting until they have had their main courses.

Our approach must be buy raw, develop and build.
I don't disagree up to a point. You make an excellent analogy about the top clubs feasting on the main courses. It's the like of us that have to pay over the odds for the scraps.

Just think that, yes we should develop, but at the same time you need that one special player to kick on. You need a core who stay loyal. You want the buy to sell model. Okay it makes sense for now but we will never win the league! You gotta spend big to do that.
 

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