chippy1722
Player Valuation: £35m
We have done it with every half decent kid since Rooney, we will continue to do so too.
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We have done it with every half decent kid since Rooney, we will continue to do so too.
BigBlueConk
Player Valuation: £70m
The midfield partnership with Neville was formidable....
Kal El
Player Valuation: £10m
lol....................what a bum! lol
artetas_biggest_fan
Player Valuation: £6m
Have no sympathy for them at all. They are the mugs that bought him.
To receive 73k per week for the level of ability he has, luckiest footballer ever.
It was the perfect storm for him;
Being promoted to the first team from youth level because he played for a club that has had a lack of funds to buy quality so needs must, scoring a goal in one game which saw him get hyped to the heavens (par for the course for a young English player), Qatari backed City throwing money around like confetti in the early days at anyone that moved...all those three things fell perfectly for him, then Sunderland topped it by buying him and forking out that wage...had this lower league level player not been signed by the Qatari funded City Sunderland wouldn’t have made the error in buying him. They were conned onto thinking he must have had something if City wanted him. Once they had him and saw what he could(n’t) do close up it was too late.
Moyes created a dour solid unit that was mid table standard. A team that wouldn’t score many, nor concede many. A lower league level player could easily get by in such a team, which happened...also the case with James Vaughan, Victor Anichebe. We have regularly given youth players (and cheap lower league players) a chance that they wouldn’t get at most other PL clubs due to the lack of spending power to buy in quality. Tom Davies is the latest (although obviously rate Davies much higher than Rodwell, but still think he’s Championship standard). In a solid mid table team you can get away with one or two players who aren’t PL standard. Soon as these players leave they find their true level.
Toffee in Jandals
Player Valuation: £35m
royvernon39
Player Valuation: £15m
Moyes was usually a shrewd dealer in the transfer market. He kept the massive under-funding by Billy Liar largely out of the headlines.
Selling Rodwell, who apart from the Utd game never lived up to his supposed potential, was a very smart move. Barkley is exactly the same,
the only shame being that the club never got rid of him a year earlier at mega-bucks.
Both players were slowish and never quite sure of their best position.
Selling Rodwell, who apart from the Utd game never lived up to his supposed potential, was a very smart move. Barkley is exactly the same,
the only shame being that the club never got rid of him a year earlier at mega-bucks.
Both players were slowish and never quite sure of their best position.
bring the ghost on
Player Valuation: £35m
Complete we-write of history going on here.
I’m not Moyes’s biggest fan by any stretch, but his team built around the likes of Arteta, Cahill, Piennar, Fellaini was not mid-table and the league finishes demonstrate that. We finished in the top six on six occasions with him in charge.
People look back and consider his brand of football to be dour but it doesn’t come close to what we’ve seen in recent seasons. His teams typically scored double the amount of goals as Koemans did last year and a competitive amount to Martinez’s sides without shipping anywhere near as many.
A good manager for us, who took us as far as he could.
But.....He is one of the few players, if not the only one, that has marked David Silva out of the game completely - a magnificent performance. I think that the problems were/are of the mental nature, moved to Man city too early and was unable to establish himself, over-coached and consequently confused about which is his best position and finally into a downward spiral towards the third division.
Yeah I remember that game. We lost 2-0 and Silva set up the second one.
Good on him. I'd do the same in a heartbeat if I could. It's not his fault people threw money at him when it was obviously stupid to do so.
Absolutely entitled to earn the wage he signed for , if you don’t want him to earn it don’t offer it to him in a contract .
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
Agree with a lot of that mate. Think there's also been some re-writing of history regarding young Jack too. For some reason we love to dish the dirt on our academy kids, even after they leave the club apparently.
As a kid he was always highly thought of. In those days it wasn't like today where you can watch a lot of youth football live on TV or on line and we know a lot about the younger lads coming through. Then, you had to be something special to have your name known but most Evertonian's were looking forward to seeing him make it into the first team. He represented England youth at all levels and was also invariably captain. He was a regular for what was then an open age Everton reserve team from the age of 15. He made his first team debut in Europe at 16 and premier debut aged 17. He played 21 times for England U21s making his debut aged 18, and then made his debut for the full England team aged 20.
When he first became a regular in the first team at 18 I thought he looked a natural and had the ability to turn both ways with the ball which is very rare. But I felt he had that coached out of him pretty quickly by the ultra cautious Moyes. He came into a squad that included Arteta, Fellaini, Cahill, Piennar, Neville and Bilyaletdinov, so it wasn't just because there was no competition for places at the time. I also felt we didn't know what his best position was. I always liked him playing further forward as he had that extra bit of quality, and when he was fit he was an absolute athlete. Remember a MOM performance from him there in a 3-1 home win against United in which he scored our third goal. A couple of MU mates of mine were really impressed with Rodwell that day and even joked about buying him.
I really don't think he was that over hyped by our fans at all. As a kid he was probably the best player in the country in his age group and expectations were high. But it wasn't just Everton who held him in high regard. We (the club or the fans) don't pick the national youth and older age teams and it was clear that they rated him too.
Sadly from the age of 18 he was besieged by injuries which have hampered him all his career. So the majority of the playing time that should have seen him develop into a top class footballer was actually spent on the treatment table. It was very sad but, from memory, not many were disappointed when he was sold to City for a decent fee, as we knew by then that he was unlikely to come good.
To read the posts in here you'd think we were dealing with a Franny Jeffers mark 2. The lad could have gone on to be a top top player for us, at a time we had a group of players together capable of challenging for trophies. The fact that injuries put a stop to that seems to be celebrated by some on here and I can't understand that thinking.
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